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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
    wrote on last edited by
    #189

    I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #190

      I don't care for the Biden blanket pardons. Pardons are usually issued for individual (and usually adjudicated) acts.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • 89th8 89th

        I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.

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        jon-nyc
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        #191

        @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

        I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.

        Yep. The anomaly is a presidential candidate who talked about prosecuting his political enemies at every campaign whistle stop, who then chooses a sycophant who as AG who went as far as publishing a book with a list of 60 ‘enemies of the state’.

        You were warned.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on last edited by
          #192

          What I find odd is how many people apparently can't see how fucked up both sides are.

          I was only joking

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #193

            60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

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            • 89th8 89th

              60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #194

              @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

              60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

              What about the other 20%?

              I was only joking

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                That's mental illness territory.

                MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #195

                @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                That's mental illness territory.

                He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                  At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                  That's mental illness territory.

                  He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #196

                  @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                  @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                  At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                  That's mental illness territory.

                  He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

                  Thought he was retiring to Spain and buying a $100k piano.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #197

                    Screenshot 2025-01-22 at 7.28.40 AM.png

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • A Offline
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                      AndyD
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #198

                      I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                      Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

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                        Renauda
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                        #199

                        Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.

                        You’re probably right, his boundless sense of entitlement exceeds the callous venality of his actions.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • A AndyD

                          I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                          Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #200

                          @AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:

                          I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                          Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

                          That is a remarkably reasonable take, thanks for that.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                            #201

                            @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                            Screenshot 2025-01-22 at 7.28.40 AM.png

                            You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                            You were warned.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                              Screenshot 2025-01-22 at 7.28.40 AM.png

                              You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #202

                              @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                              You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                              ceb4aaee-301b-4947-9ee6-6093333b3001-image.png

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                                ceb4aaee-301b-4947-9ee6-6093333b3001-image.png

                                George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #203

                                @Doctor-Phibes 👍

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #204

                                  Was he just released?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                    You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                                    ceb4aaee-301b-4947-9ee6-6093333b3001-image.png

                                    HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #205

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                    You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                                    ceb4aaee-301b-4947-9ee6-6093333b3001-image.png

                                    He's doing the Nazi salute wrong.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      Was he just released?

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #206

                                      @Horace said in Mr. Clemency:

                                      Was he just released?

                                      I think he served his sentence and was out already.

                                      Federal prosecutors initially asked for a 90-day sentence.[1][15] On November 22, 2021, Johnson reached a plea agreement and pleaded guilty in federal court to entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, and prosecutors dismissed his charges of theft of government property and of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.[9] The plea deal also included an agreement on a potential book or "something of that nature" that would be published by Johnson, which gave the government rights to any profit that Johnson acquired as a result of that product for five years.[9] During his trial, judge Reggie Walton recommended he read the books How Civil Wars Start and The Next Civil War.[4] On February 25, 2022, Johnson was sentenced to 75 days in prison with a year of supervised release and 200 hours of community service, and he was ordered to pay a $5,525 fine.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #207

                                        I think it's fair to say that guy's an imbecile. I'm not convinced he was particularly dangerous.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #208

                                          Trump has been consistent in his explanations for Jan 6 pardons.

                                          1. He feels like many of the penalties were politically motivated and people served and were still serving harsher penalties than other people convicted of much more serious crimes.
                                          2. That the investigations had dragged on long enough, sapping resources from more urgent needs.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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