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  • George KG George K

    @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

    I mean the Jan 6th folks were charged...

    Innocent until proven guilty.

    Have all the charged been tried?

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    NobodySock
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    #183

    @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

    @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

    I mean the Jan 6th folks were charged...

    Innocent until proven guilty.

    Have all the charged been tried?

    If not, then that is another travesty of justice. So many holes in the system to count The Beatles get it, probably as many as the Albert Hall.

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      At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

      That's mental illness territory.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        #185

        If you say so oh sage one. More importantly, there are proven ways to get all that sand out of your eyes and ears after having them buried in it for so long. I can provide links. And I have to ask, curious creature that I am, I thought for sure you would have added your input to my queries on my upcoming piano hunt. I remember the topic of pianos was something you had much interest in with all kinds of good advice. Particularly the Baldwin question. I remember your fondness for them in the days of yore.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #186

          We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

          I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

            I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.

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            Jolly
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            #187

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:

            We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

            I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.

            Biden had been a typical Washington pol up to a point, using his influence and knowledge to make money, but I'm not sure he was super corrupt. Then, somewhere around 2014, the Biden Crime Family went into the " make it rain" mode and threw a lot of caution to the winds.

            Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

              I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.

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              George K
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              #188

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:

              We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

              Exactly. "Your criminals are worse than my criminals."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                #189

                I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.

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                  Jolly
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                  #190

                  I don't care for the Biden blanket pardons. Pardons are usually issued for individual (and usually adjudicated) acts.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #191

                    @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

                    I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.

                    Yep. The anomaly is a presidential candidate who talked about prosecuting his political enemies at every campaign whistle stop, who then chooses a sycophant who as AG who went as far as publishing a book with a list of 60 ‘enemies of the state’.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #192

                      What I find odd is how many people apparently can't see how fucked up both sides are.

                      I was only joking

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                        89th
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                        #193

                        60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

                          60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

                          What about the other 20%?

                          I was only joking

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                            That's mental illness territory.

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                            Mik
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                            @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                            At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                            That's mental illness territory.

                            He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                              At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                              That's mental illness territory.

                              He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

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                              Jolly
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                              #196

                              @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                              @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                              At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                              That's mental illness territory.

                              He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

                              Thought he was retiring to Spain and buying a $100k piano.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                George K
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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #198

                                  I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                                  Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

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                                    Renauda
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                                    Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.

                                    You’re probably right, his boundless sense of entitlement exceeds the callous venality of his actions.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                                      Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

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                                      Horace
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                                      @AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:

                                      I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                                      Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

                                      That is a remarkably reasonable take, thanks for that.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        #201

                                        @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

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                                        You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                                          Screenshot 2025-01-22 at 7.28.40 AM.png

                                          You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                          You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

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                                          I was only joking

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