Mr. Clemency
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:17 last edited by
@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
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@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:18 last edited by@Mik said in Mr. Clemency:
@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
Thought he was retiring to Spain and buying a $100k piano.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:29 last edited by
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:23 last edited by
I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:24 last edited by Renauda
Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.
You’re probably right, his boundless sense of entitlement exceeds the callous venality of his actions.
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I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:30 last edited by@AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:
I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
That is a remarkably reasonable take, thanks for that.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:36 last edited by jon-nyc
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:57 last edited by
Was he just released?
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:59 last edited by
@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
@jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:
You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?
He's doing the Nazi salute wrong.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:59 last edited by
@Horace said in Mr. Clemency:
Was he just released?
I think he served his sentence and was out already.
Federal prosecutors initially asked for a 90-day sentence.[1][15] On November 22, 2021, Johnson reached a plea agreement and pleaded guilty in federal court to entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds, and prosecutors dismissed his charges of theft of government property and of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.[9] The plea deal also included an agreement on a potential book or "something of that nature" that would be published by Johnson, which gave the government rights to any profit that Johnson acquired as a result of that product for five years.[9] During his trial, judge Reggie Walton recommended he read the books How Civil Wars Start and The Next Civil War.[4] On February 25, 2022, Johnson was sentenced to 75 days in prison with a year of supervised release and 200 hours of community service, and he was ordered to pay a $5,525 fine.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 15:01 last edited by
I think it's fair to say that guy's an imbecile. I'm not convinced he was particularly dangerous.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 15:07 last edited by
Trump has been consistent in his explanations for Jan 6 pardons.
- He feels like many of the penalties were politically motivated and people served and were still serving harsher penalties than other people convicted of much more serious crimes.
- That the investigations had dragged on long enough, sapping resources from more urgent needs.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 15:09 last edited by
That would be an easier sell if the guys who assaulted cops and were already in prison weren’t granted full pardons.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 15:11 last edited by
There were people in Minnesota and Oregon who assaulted cops and didn't spend a day in jail.
There are murderers in this country who have spent less time in jail than some 1/6 defendants.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 15:14 last edited by
As always, had it been Obama who had lost and his BLM minions had attacked the Capitol and assaulted cops, I'm sure you'd be whistling a different tune if Obama came back and pardoned all of those criminals.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 15:22 last edited by
I don't imagine I'd care that much if a bunch of BLM looters were pardoned. I don't care that much that they're never arrested in the first place, though I sort of wish things were different.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 15:35 last edited by
It's nice to see he's pardoned the online drug dealer behind the dark web site Silk Road, since as we know the current fentanyl crisis is all China and Canada's fault.
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I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 15:38 last edited by@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.
Trump 2016, offered up tons of rhetoric about prosecuting 'Crooked Hillary' ("lock her up/You'd be in jail", etc)
As soon as he won---he dropped it. So, I guess if we go by Trumps own actions---this may well have just been a bunch of rhetoric. The people who have been printing things for Biden to scribble his name on are aware of this--so I would say quite debatable acksually.
Shame on him for giving Biden the political cover for his pre-emptive pardons though.
