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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #190

    Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

    The Brad

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #191

      I am sure the cure may be worse than the disease, but I have been convinced for quite some time that the American health care system has glaring issues that should be fixed.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #192

        The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

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          #193

          @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

          The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

          Obamacare or something similar, is here to stay, and I didn't hear anybody campaign on any promises to just dismantle it. Trump talks about replacing it "only if he has something better". Whatever we do, won't necessarily be a temporary thing that gets reversed every four years.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #194

            @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

            Yup.

            I had some medication in the US that was about USD$1/pill and by prescription.

            In Thailand, I would just walk into a pharmacy and buy it and it was about 20% of the cost.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #195

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                #196

                Watch her get 15 years while the wop gets 10.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  #197

                  Luigi was not a member...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #198

                    Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                    From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                    I have questions.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Yeah, that may be a deceptive’fact’

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                        From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                        I have questions.

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #200

                        @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                        From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                        I have questions.

                        From the article, this is the quote from the NYC Chief Detective -

                        "We have no indication that he was ever a client of United Healthcare”

                        My read? I don’t necessarily think he went there specifically for Thompson. It’s possible he just wanted A insurance CEO and Thompson was the first he ran into.

                        The Brad

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          Jesus.

                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                          Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

                          If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                          At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                            At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

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                            blondie
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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                            At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                            Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

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                            • B blondie

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                              If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                              At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                              Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

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                              @blondie said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                              If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                              At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                              Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

                              My problem isn’t the pain, it’s the boredom. Do you know how much of my life has been spent searching through piles to find just the right shade of blue thin rectangle with 6 studs in a row? “Oh, look! Here’s an aqua shade with the right configuration!” “No daddy, that’s too green!”

                              The Brad

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #204

                                Interesting:

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #205

                                  Am I the only one who at first glance reads this thread as ‘…finally shot’ rather than ‘fatally shot’?

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

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                                    "Fewer"

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      Interesting:

                                      HoraceH Offline
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                                      @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      Interesting:

                                      Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with? Pleasantly surprising if so. Her brother does a podcast which is typical Hollywood leftism, as far as I am aware. I haven’t listened, but that’s what I’ve gathered.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                        Interesting:

                                        Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with? Pleasantly surprising if so. Her brother does a podcast which is typical Hollywood leftism, as far as I am aware. I haven’t listened, but that’s what I’ve gathered.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        #208

                                        @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                        Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with?

                                        Yep. That's her.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          Excerpt from Serious Trouble podcast about how it is that Luigi will face Federal capital charges

                                          Josh Barro (02:00):
                                          And so ordinarily murder is not a federal crime. What would make Brian Thompson's murder a federal crime?

                                          Ken White (02:06):
                                          Well, they have to bootstrap this a little bit, Josh, to get to the death-eligible murder charge. What they do is they charge him with interstate stalking, which is a federal crime, and then they tack onto that use of a firearm in the course of a federal crime, that federal crime being the interstate stalking. And then on top of that, they tack on the use of a firearm in a federal crime resulting in death, which is the one that's death eligible. So it's sort of like a multi-step process to be getting to deploy or he's eligible for the death penalty.

                                          Josh Barro (02:44):
                                          Oh, so that's interesting. So it's not so much about using the gun in the murder as using the gun in the stalking that makes it a federal gun crime that then results in death.

                                          Ken White (02:54):
                                          Right. The statute 9 24 C is a statute that adds on fairly draconian penalties to other crimes if they're federal, if you use a gun during them, and this is one where they stack up. So if you commit five bank robberies, you're looking at a mandatory minimum 85 years or something on top of the bank robbery sentence from using a gun in all those bank robberies. But it's basically a mechanism to get where they're going. And it all hinges on the concept that Mangione stalked Thompson across multiple states.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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