UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot
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wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:03 last edited by
I am sure the cure may be worse than the disease, but I have been convinced for quite some time that the American health care system has glaring issues that should be fixed.
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wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:10 last edited by
The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.
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The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.
wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:16 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.
Obamacare or something similar, is here to stay, and I didn't hear anybody campaign on any promises to just dismantle it. Trump talks about replacing it "only if he has something better". Whatever we do, won't necessarily be a temporary thing that gets reversed every four years.
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Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.
wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:46 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.
Yup.
I had some medication in the US that was about USD$1/pill and by prescription.
In Thailand, I would just walk into a pharmacy and buy it and it was about 20% of the cost.
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wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:56 last edited by
Watch her get 15 years while the wop gets 10.
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wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 03:52 last edited by jon-nyc
Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?
From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.
I have questions.
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wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 03:54 last edited by
Yeah, that may be a deceptive’fact’
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Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?
From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.
I have questions.
wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 12:35 last edited by@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?
From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.
I have questions.
From the article, this is the quote from the NYC Chief Detective -
"We have no indication that he was ever a client of United Healthcare”
My read? I don’t necessarily think he went there specifically for Thompson. It’s possible he just wanted A insurance CEO and Thompson was the first he ran into.
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@Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Jesus.
Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.
If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.
wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 13:15 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.
At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.
At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.
wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 18:31 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.
At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.
Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.
At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.
Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.
wrote on 14 Dec 2024, 05:35 last edited by@blondie said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.
At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.
Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.
My problem isn’t the pain, it’s the boredom. Do you know how much of my life has been spent searching through piles to find just the right shade of blue thin rectangle with 6 studs in a row? “Oh, look! Here’s an aqua shade with the right configuration!” “No daddy, that’s too green!”
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Am I the only one who at first glance reads this thread as ‘…finally shot’ rather than ‘fatally shot’?
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@George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Interesting:
Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with? Pleasantly surprising if so. Her brother does a podcast which is typical Hollywood leftism, as far as I am aware. I haven’t listened, but that’s what I’ve gathered.
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@George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Interesting:
Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with? Pleasantly surprising if so. Her brother does a podcast which is typical Hollywood leftism, as far as I am aware. I haven’t listened, but that’s what I’ve gathered.
wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 22:31 last edited by@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with?
Yep. That's her.
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Excerpt from Serious Trouble podcast about how it is that Luigi will face Federal capital charges
Josh Barro (02:00):
And so ordinarily murder is not a federal crime. What would make Brian Thompson's murder a federal crime?Ken White (02:06):
Well, they have to bootstrap this a little bit, Josh, to get to the death-eligible murder charge. What they do is they charge him with interstate stalking, which is a federal crime, and then they tack onto that use of a firearm in the course of a federal crime, that federal crime being the interstate stalking. And then on top of that, they tack on the use of a firearm in a federal crime resulting in death, which is the one that's death eligible. So it's sort of like a multi-step process to be getting to deploy or he's eligible for the death penalty.Josh Barro (02:44):
Oh, so that's interesting. So it's not so much about using the gun in the murder as using the gun in the stalking that makes it a federal gun crime that then results in death.Ken White (02:54):
Right. The statute 9 24 C is a statute that adds on fairly draconian penalties to other crimes if they're federal, if you use a gun during them, and this is one where they stack up. So if you commit five bank robberies, you're looking at a mandatory minimum 85 years or something on top of the bank robbery sentence from using a gun in all those bank robberies. But it's basically a mechanism to get where they're going. And it all hinges on the concept that Mangione stalked Thompson across multiple states. -
Excerpt from Serious Trouble podcast about how it is that Luigi will face Federal capital charges
Josh Barro (02:00):
And so ordinarily murder is not a federal crime. What would make Brian Thompson's murder a federal crime?Ken White (02:06):
Well, they have to bootstrap this a little bit, Josh, to get to the death-eligible murder charge. What they do is they charge him with interstate stalking, which is a federal crime, and then they tack onto that use of a firearm in the course of a federal crime, that federal crime being the interstate stalking. And then on top of that, they tack on the use of a firearm in a federal crime resulting in death, which is the one that's death eligible. So it's sort of like a multi-step process to be getting to deploy or he's eligible for the death penalty.Josh Barro (02:44):
Oh, so that's interesting. So it's not so much about using the gun in the murder as using the gun in the stalking that makes it a federal gun crime that then results in death.Ken White (02:54):
Right. The statute 9 24 C is a statute that adds on fairly draconian penalties to other crimes if they're federal, if you use a gun during them, and this is one where they stack up. So if you commit five bank robberies, you're looking at a mandatory minimum 85 years or something on top of the bank robbery sentence from using a gun in all those bank robberies. But it's basically a mechanism to get where they're going. And it all hinges on the concept that Mangione stalked Thompson across multiple states.wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 01:30 last edited by@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Excerpt from Serious Trouble podcast about how it is that Luigi will face Federal capital charges
Yup
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/luigi-mangione-indicted-federal-charges/index.htmlLuigi Mangione, the 26-year-old accused of fatally shooting UnitedHealthcare’s CEO on a Manhattan sidewalk last year, was indicted in federal court on charges of murder, stalking and a firearms offense.
Mangione is facing both state and federal charges for the December 4 killing of Brian Thompson in a case that has exposed the public’s deep anger and frustration with the US health care system and insurance companies.
Federal prosecutors unsealed charges against Mangione late last year, but he had not yet been indicted on those charges until now.
