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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:15 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Dec 2024, 23:15
    #186

    Seen on twitter:

    Imagine if, after the Elliot Rodger incident, some politician had said ‘I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the plight of young men who can’t smash’.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      Horace
      wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:34 last edited by
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      I don't consider 'I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the health insurance industry' to be a shocking or absurd take. I don't think very many people do.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Horace
        wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:40 last edited by
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        I heard a leftist pundit today observe that this public sentiment should be capitalized on by their party. I thought that was actually pretty smart. There's electorate gold for the party that can position themselves as the solvers of this pain point in the health care system.

        Education is extremely important.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:53 last edited by
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          The problem is where the solution lies. I’m firmly of the opinion that it starts with transparency. What is my insurer paying (negotiated rates), what am I paying (with or without insurance), and what is this provider paying/accepting elsewhere.

          The next thing is an acceptance by the consumer that they have choices in this. The first $25K surgery to fix my finger failed. I am assured that the $70K surgery will succeed. You know what? It looks ugly, and aches occasionally, but I don’t need to spend my own money to fix this. It works fine, I can play piano and saxophone as well as I could before… image.jpg

          Just because my doctor recommends it doesn’t mean that I need to…

          The Brad

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:56 last edited by
            #190

            Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

            The Brad

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              Horace
              wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:03 last edited by
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              I am sure the cure may be worse than the disease, but I have been convinced for quite some time that the American health care system has glaring issues that should be fixed.

              Education is extremely important.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:10 last edited by
                #192

                The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

                The Brad

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                  13 Dec 2024, 00:10

                  The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:16 last edited by
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                  @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                  The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

                  Obamacare or something similar, is here to stay, and I didn't hear anybody campaign on any promises to just dismantle it. Trump talks about replacing it "only if he has something better". Whatever we do, won't necessarily be a temporary thing that gets reversed every four years.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    12 Dec 2024, 23:56

                    Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:46 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                    Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

                    Yup.

                    I had some medication in the US that was about USD$1/pill and by prescription.

                    In Thailand, I would just walk into a pharmacy and buy it and it was about 20% of the cost.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:49 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:56 last edited by
                        #196

                        Watch her get 15 years while the wop gets 10.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          George K
                          wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 02:13 last edited by
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                          Luigi was not a member...

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 03:52 last edited by jon-nyc
                            #198

                            Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                            From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                            I have questions.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 03:54 last edited by
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                              Yeah, that may be a deceptive’fact’

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                13 Dec 2024, 03:52

                                Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                                From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                                I have questions.

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 12:35 last edited by
                                #200

                                @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                                From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                                I have questions.

                                From the article, this is the quote from the NYC Chief Detective -

                                "We have no indication that he was ever a client of United Healthcare”

                                My read? I don’t necessarily think he went there specifically for Thompson. It’s possible he just wanted A insurance CEO and Thompson was the first he ran into.

                                The Brad

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                                  12 Dec 2024, 22:11

                                  @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                  Jesus.

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                                  Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

                                  If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 13:15 last edited by
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                  If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                  At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    13 Dec 2024, 13:15

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                    At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

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                                    blondie
                                    wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 18:31 last edited by
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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                    At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                                    Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

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                                      13 Dec 2024, 18:31

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                      At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                                      Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 14 Dec 2024, 05:35 last edited by
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                                      @blondie said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                      At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                                      Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

                                      My problem isn’t the pain, it’s the boredom. Do you know how much of my life has been spent searching through piles to find just the right shade of blue thin rectangle with 6 studs in a row? “Oh, look! Here’s an aqua shade with the right configuration!” “No daddy, that’s too green!”

                                      The Brad

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 15:16 last edited by
                                        #204

                                        Interesting:

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 16 Dec 2024, 15:38 last edited by
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                                          Am I the only one who at first glance reads this thread as ‘…finally shot’ rather than ‘fatally shot’?

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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