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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #184

    I am sure the same people who are terrified of right wing populist violence, whatever that means to them, are vibing with this left wing populist violence.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #185

      Not that Luigi neatly fits into a "leftist" tribe, but anybody who vibes with "kill all the CEOs" assuredly does.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #186

        Seen on twitter:

        Imagine if, after the Elliot Rodger incident, some politician had said ‘I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the plight of young men who can’t smash’.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          #187

          I don't consider 'I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the health insurance industry' to be a shocking or absurd take. I don't think very many people do.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            #188

            I heard a leftist pundit today observe that this public sentiment should be capitalized on by their party. I thought that was actually pretty smart. There's electorate gold for the party that can position themselves as the solvers of this pain point in the health care system.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #189

              The problem is where the solution lies. I’m firmly of the opinion that it starts with transparency. What is my insurer paying (negotiated rates), what am I paying (with or without insurance), and what is this provider paying/accepting elsewhere.

              The next thing is an acceptance by the consumer that they have choices in this. The first $25K surgery to fix my finger failed. I am assured that the $70K surgery will succeed. You know what? It looks ugly, and aches occasionally, but I don’t need to spend my own money to fix this. It works fine, I can play piano and saxophone as well as I could before… image.jpg

              Just because my doctor recommends it doesn’t mean that I need to…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
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                #190

                Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

                The Brad

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                • HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #191

                  I am sure the cure may be worse than the disease, but I have been convinced for quite some time that the American health care system has glaring issues that should be fixed.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #192

                    The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                      The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

                      Obamacare or something similar, is here to stay, and I didn't hear anybody campaign on any promises to just dismantle it. Trump talks about replacing it "only if he has something better". Whatever we do, won't necessarily be a temporary thing that gets reversed every four years.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

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                        #194

                        @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

                        Yup.

                        I had some medication in the US that was about USD$1/pill and by prescription.

                        In Thailand, I would just walk into a pharmacy and buy it and it was about 20% of the cost.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
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                            Watch her get 15 years while the wop gets 10.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • George KG Offline
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                              Luigi was not a member...

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #198

                                Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                                From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                                I have questions.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • MikM Away
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                                  Mik
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                                  Yeah, that may be a deceptive’fact’

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                                    From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                                    I have questions.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

                                    From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

                                    I have questions.

                                    From the article, this is the quote from the NYC Chief Detective -

                                    "We have no indication that he was ever a client of United Healthcare”

                                    My read? I don’t necessarily think he went there specifically for Thompson. It’s possible he just wanted A insurance CEO and Thompson was the first he ran into.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      Jesus.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

                                      Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

                                      If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                      At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                        If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                        At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                        If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                        At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                                        Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

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                                        • B blondie

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                          If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                          At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                                          Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          @blondie said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                          If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                                          At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                                          Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

                                          My problem isn’t the pain, it’s the boredom. Do you know how much of my life has been spent searching through piles to find just the right shade of blue thin rectangle with 6 studs in a row? “Oh, look! Here’s an aqua shade with the right configuration!” “No daddy, that’s too green!”

                                          The Brad

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