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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #197

    Luigi was not a member...

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
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      #198

      Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

      From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

      I have questions.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • MikM Offline
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        Yeah, that may be a deceptive’fact’

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

          From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

          I have questions.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          #200

          @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

          Ok, but he had several jobs in the last few years. Was he a member when his health shit happened? Was his mom a member when hers happened?

          From my read of the guy, admittedly (and obviously) based on nothing but news coverage, I can't imagine him icing the UHC CEO when it was (say) Aetna that fucked him over.

          I have questions.

          From the article, this is the quote from the NYC Chief Detective -

          "We have no indication that he was ever a client of United Healthcare”

          My read? I don’t necessarily think he went there specifically for Thompson. It’s possible he just wanted A insurance CEO and Thompson was the first he ran into.

          The Brad

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            Jesus.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

            Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

            If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

            Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #201

            @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

            At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

              At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

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              blondie
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              #202

              @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

              At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

              Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                @blondie said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different.

                At least from people who haven't stood on one of the fucking things tiptoeing barefoot to the bathroom at 3am.

                Oh yeah. No parent ever forgets the pain inflicted by LEGO.

                My problem isn’t the pain, it’s the boredom. Do you know how much of my life has been spent searching through piles to find just the right shade of blue thin rectangle with 6 studs in a row? “Oh, look! Here’s an aqua shade with the right configuration!” “No daddy, that’s too green!”

                The Brad

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #204

                  Interesting:

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #205

                    Am I the only one who at first glance reads this thread as ‘…finally shot’ rather than ‘fatally shot’?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

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                      "Fewer"

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                      • George KG George K

                        Interesting:

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        Interesting:

                        Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with? Pleasantly surprising if so. Her brother does a podcast which is typical Hollywood leftism, as far as I am aware. I haven’t listened, but that’s what I’ve gathered.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          Interesting:

                          Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with? Pleasantly surprising if so. Her brother does a podcast which is typical Hollywood leftism, as far as I am aware. I haven’t listened, but that’s what I’ve gathered.

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                          @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          Is that the Justine Bateman we’re all familiar with?

                          Yep. That's her.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Excerpt from Serious Trouble podcast about how it is that Luigi will face Federal capital charges

                            Josh Barro (02:00):
                            And so ordinarily murder is not a federal crime. What would make Brian Thompson's murder a federal crime?

                            Ken White (02:06):
                            Well, they have to bootstrap this a little bit, Josh, to get to the death-eligible murder charge. What they do is they charge him with interstate stalking, which is a federal crime, and then they tack onto that use of a firearm in the course of a federal crime, that federal crime being the interstate stalking. And then on top of that, they tack on the use of a firearm in a federal crime resulting in death, which is the one that's death eligible. So it's sort of like a multi-step process to be getting to deploy or he's eligible for the death penalty.

                            Josh Barro (02:44):
                            Oh, so that's interesting. So it's not so much about using the gun in the murder as using the gun in the stalking that makes it a federal gun crime that then results in death.

                            Ken White (02:54):
                            Right. The statute 9 24 C is a statute that adds on fairly draconian penalties to other crimes if they're federal, if you use a gun during them, and this is one where they stack up. So if you commit five bank robberies, you're looking at a mandatory minimum 85 years or something on top of the bank robbery sentence from using a gun in all those bank robberies. But it's basically a mechanism to get where they're going. And it all hinges on the concept that Mangione stalked Thompson across multiple states.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Excerpt from Serious Trouble podcast about how it is that Luigi will face Federal capital charges

                              Josh Barro (02:00):
                              And so ordinarily murder is not a federal crime. What would make Brian Thompson's murder a federal crime?

                              Ken White (02:06):
                              Well, they have to bootstrap this a little bit, Josh, to get to the death-eligible murder charge. What they do is they charge him with interstate stalking, which is a federal crime, and then they tack onto that use of a firearm in the course of a federal crime, that federal crime being the interstate stalking. And then on top of that, they tack on the use of a firearm in a federal crime resulting in death, which is the one that's death eligible. So it's sort of like a multi-step process to be getting to deploy or he's eligible for the death penalty.

                              Josh Barro (02:44):
                              Oh, so that's interesting. So it's not so much about using the gun in the murder as using the gun in the stalking that makes it a federal gun crime that then results in death.

                              Ken White (02:54):
                              Right. The statute 9 24 C is a statute that adds on fairly draconian penalties to other crimes if they're federal, if you use a gun during them, and this is one where they stack up. So if you commit five bank robberies, you're looking at a mandatory minimum 85 years or something on top of the bank robbery sentence from using a gun in all those bank robberies. But it's basically a mechanism to get where they're going. And it all hinges on the concept that Mangione stalked Thompson across multiple states.

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                              @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                              Excerpt from Serious Trouble podcast about how it is that Luigi will face Federal capital charges

                              Yup
                              https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/luigi-mangione-indicted-federal-charges/index.html

                              Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old accused of fatally shooting UnitedHealthcare’s CEO on a Manhattan sidewalk last year, was indicted in federal court on charges of murder, stalking and a firearms offense.

                              Mangione is facing both state and federal charges for the December 4 killing of Brian Thompson in a case that has exposed the public’s deep anger and frustration with the US health care system and insurance companies.

                              Federal prosecutors unsealed charges against Mangione late last year, but he had not yet been indicted on those charges until now.

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                                And he’s made $1M in go-fund-me and is a darling of the not so left.

                                Taylor Lorenz was a major reporter for the WaPo just a few months ago…https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-takes-heat-for-journalistic-malfeasance-after-airing-taylor-lorenz-fawning-over-luigi-mangione

                                The Brad

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