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  • M Mik
    12 Dec 2024, 19:50

    We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 20:15 last edited by
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    @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

    We’ve never stopped talking about these issues. It just never got this kind of pop culture clickbait treatment.

    That's all this is. "Raising awareness" is only as good as the people whose awareness is being raised.

    Please love yourself.

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      Mik
      wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 22:03 last edited by
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      Jesus.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        12 Dec 2024, 22:03

        Jesus.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 22:11 last edited by
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        @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

        Jesus.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

        Mobs are stupid and always are. I think the far more useful thing is to make note of why mobs pay attention to specific people, events or circumstances.

        If this were the CEO of Lego, the public reaction would have been very different. In other words, you wouldn't have this kind of reaction without some seriously deep animosity against insurance companies—which I think would be very difficult to claim this one in particular doesn't deserve.

        Please love yourself.

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        • M Mik
          12 Dec 2024, 22:03

          Jesus.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 22:16 last edited by
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          @Mik said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

          Jesus.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/luigi-mangione-fundraiser-update-as-donations-near-milestone/ar-AA1vKHkC

          The funny part is this is really a gift to his apparently quite wealthy parents. It's that much less they'll have to pay.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 22:31 last edited by
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            The Brad

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 22:33 last edited by
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              Where was that?

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                12 Dec 2024, 22:33

                Where was that?

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                George K
                wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 22:36 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc

                https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-road-signs-disturbing-message-sparks-investigation-amid-ceo-shooting-aftermath-highway-99-one-less-ceo-many-more-to-go-lake-union-wsdot-sdot

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 22:55 last edited by
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                  I am sure the same people who are terrified of right wing populist violence, whatever that means to them, are vibing with this left wing populist violence.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 22:57 last edited by
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                    Not that Luigi neatly fits into a "leftist" tribe, but anybody who vibes with "kill all the CEOs" assuredly does.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:15 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Dec 2024, 23:15
                      #186

                      Seen on twitter:

                      Imagine if, after the Elliot Rodger incident, some politician had said ‘I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the plight of young men who can’t smash’.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:34 last edited by
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                        I don't consider 'I don’t condone violence, but there’s an important national conversation to be had about the health insurance industry' to be a shocking or absurd take. I don't think very many people do.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:40 last edited by
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                          I heard a leftist pundit today observe that this public sentiment should be capitalized on by their party. I thought that was actually pretty smart. There's electorate gold for the party that can position themselves as the solvers of this pain point in the health care system.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:53 last edited by
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                            The problem is where the solution lies. I’m firmly of the opinion that it starts with transparency. What is my insurer paying (negotiated rates), what am I paying (with or without insurance), and what is this provider paying/accepting elsewhere.

                            The next thing is an acceptance by the consumer that they have choices in this. The first $25K surgery to fix my finger failed. I am assured that the $70K surgery will succeed. You know what? It looks ugly, and aches occasionally, but I don’t need to spend my own money to fix this. It works fine, I can play piano and saxophone as well as I could before… image.jpg

                            Just because my doctor recommends it doesn’t mean that I need to…

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 12 Dec 2024, 23:56 last edited by
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                              Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

                              The Brad

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:03 last edited by
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                                I am sure the cure may be worse than the disease, but I have been convinced for quite some time that the American health care system has glaring issues that should be fixed.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:10 last edited by
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                                  The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

                                  The Brad

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                                    13 Dec 2024, 00:10

                                    The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 00:16 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    The answer sure as hell isn’t having a government that switches mentality every 4 years take over.

                                    Obamacare or something similar, is here to stay, and I didn't hear anybody campaign on any promises to just dismantle it. Trump talks about replacing it "only if he has something better". Whatever we do, won't necessarily be a temporary thing that gets reversed every four years.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      12 Dec 2024, 23:56

                                      Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:46 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      Beyond that, I am sick and fucking tired of paying $100 for a prescription that the same pharmaceutical company sells for $5 in India.

                                      Yup.

                                      I had some medication in the US that was about USD$1/pill and by prescription.

                                      In Thailand, I would just walk into a pharmacy and buy it and it was about 20% of the cost.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:49 last edited by
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 13 Dec 2024, 01:56 last edited by
                                          #196

                                          Watch her get 15 years while the wop gets 10.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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