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  • HoraceH Horace

    The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

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    Copper
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    @Horace said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

    The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

    It is shameful.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      Klaus CL

      In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

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      @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      Klaus CL

      In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

      Acfually, I'd say Larry and I both would be classified as positively revolutionists...In 1776.

      But yes, I would peg you as classical liberal...Which is pretty conservative in America...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        For fun, I decided to see the politics composition of this forum board. I looked at all posters with 25 or more posts and ranked them into 4 categories. There were 35 people.

        Right
        Center Right
        Center Left
        Left

        The percents were
        R = 14
        CR = 43
        CL = 34
        L = 9

        Below is how I see the people. Anybody disagree? 🙂

        89th CR
        Aqua L CL
        Copper R
        Axtremus L
        Bachophile CL
        Brenda CR
        CatsEye CL
        Dr. Phibes CL
        Friday CL
        George CR
        Horace R
        ILM CR
        Improviso R
        IvoryThumper CR
        Jeffery CR
        Jolly R
        Jon CL
        Kincaid CR
        Klaus CL
        Kluurs CR
        Larry R
        Loki CR
        LuFIns Dad CR
        MarinerMike CR
        Mark CR
        Mik CR
        Nobodys Sock L
        Optimistic CL
        Quantum CR
        Rainman CR
        Renauda CL
        Rich CL
        Taiwan Girl CL
        WTG L
        Xenon CL

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        @taiwan_girl

        I would put myself at CR as well, mostly because of a few libertarian positions and because I support single payer Health Care. Almost everything else I am down right Republican.

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          Loki
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          #37

          Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

            Klaus CL

            In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

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            @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

            Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

            AFD is far right. Not you.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • L Loki

              Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #39

              @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

              Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

              Yeah, great call.

              TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

                Yeah, great call.

                TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

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                @Aqua-Letifer
                Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
                Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

                BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
                Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
                Or, is that just bad grammar?

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                • RainmanR Rainman

                  @Aqua-Letifer
                  Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
                  Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

                  BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
                  Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
                  Or, is that just bad grammar?

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                  #41

                  @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                  Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                  And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                  Please love yourself.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    All right, here is my ranking: 🙂

                    Some notes:

                    • It was tough, because some people I think are very close, but thought I would try. LOL

                    • Others (for example 16-20, I dont have enough of a good feel to really tell)

                    • What do you guys think?

                    7aa6baf9-5d3f-4bc1-a290-39f05c6a8754-image.png
                    Larry R 1
                    Improviso R 2
                    Copper R 3
                    Jolly R 4
                    Horace R 5
                    IvoryThumper CR 6
                    Brenda CR 7
                    George CR 8
                    Rainman CR 9
                    LuFIns Dad CR 10
                    Kincaid CR 11
                    Loki CR 12
                    89th CR 13
                    Mik CR 14
                    Mark CR 15
                    MarinerMike CR 16
                    Kluurs CR 17
                    Jeffery CR 18
                    ILM CR 19
                    Quantum CR 20
                    Renauda CL 21
                    Klaus CL 22
                    Aqua L CL 23
                    Jon CL 24
                    Xenon CL 25
                    Taiwan Girl CL 26
                    Bachophile CL 27
                    Rich CL 28
                    Dr. Phibes CL 29
                    CatsEye CL 30
                    Friday CL 31
                    Optimistic CL 32
                    Axtremus L 33
                    WTG L 34
                    Nobodys Sock L 35

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right eh jon? EH???

                      I once met up with the next most liberal person relative to me and the next most conservative. True story. We had beers.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                        Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                        Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                        And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                        @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                        Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                        Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                        And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                        Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

                        I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                        Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                        Epanalepsis. . .

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                        • RainmanR Rainman

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                          Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                          And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                          Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

                          I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                          Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                          Epanalepsis. . .

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                          @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.
                          I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                          Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                          Epanalepsis. . .

                          😄 If you wanna take the full plunge, get a copy of the Handlist of Rhetorical Terms. You'll be all set.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                            Markj more to the left

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                              Markj more to the left

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                              @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                              Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                              Markj more to the left

                              Good points. Just dont know Quantum enough (or have a good feel of him) to know. He is in my 16-20 group. LOL

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                Markj more to the left

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                                @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                Markj more to the left

                                Be fun (although impractical unless Klaus is up for more web scraping) to compare this to total words shared. QI's not the most prolific so I can see how he'd be hard to rank.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  All right, here is my ranking: 🙂

                                  Some notes:

                                  • It was tough, because some people I think are very close, but thought I would try. LOL

                                  • Others (for example 16-20, I dont have enough of a good feel to really tell)

                                  • What do you guys think?

                                  7aa6baf9-5d3f-4bc1-a290-39f05c6a8754-image.png
                                  Larry R 1
                                  Improviso R 2
                                  Copper R 3
                                  Jolly R 4
                                  Horace R 5
                                  IvoryThumper CR 6
                                  Brenda CR 7
                                  George CR 8
                                  Rainman CR 9
                                  LuFIns Dad CR 10
                                  Kincaid CR 11
                                  Loki CR 12
                                  89th CR 13
                                  Mik CR 14
                                  Mark CR 15
                                  MarinerMike CR 16
                                  Kluurs CR 17
                                  Jeffery CR 18
                                  ILM CR 19
                                  Quantum CR 20
                                  Renauda CL 21
                                  Klaus CL 22
                                  Aqua L CL 23
                                  Jon CL 24
                                  Xenon CL 25
                                  Taiwan Girl CL 26
                                  Bachophile CL 27
                                  Rich CL 28
                                  Dr. Phibes CL 29
                                  CatsEye CL 30
                                  Friday CL 31
                                  Optimistic CL 32
                                  Axtremus L 33
                                  WTG L 34
                                  Nobodys Sock L 35

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                                  @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                  All right, here is my ranking:

                                  Haha love it! Seems about right to me (at least FOR me).

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                                    I'm to the left of the right, and to the right of the center right. This is the true middle, which makes sense, since I am the most objective one.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      There you go impersonating important people again.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        I think QI and I come in at pretty similar points. Of course, I also thought I would come in a little to the left of Mik.

                                        Of course, it also depends on the issue, how serious that individual takes the issue, and how important the observer seems the issue and their own stance.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • RainmanR Rainman

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                          @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                          Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                                          Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                                          And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                                          Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

                                          I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                                          Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                                          Epanalepsis. . .

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                                          @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                          Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that.

                                          Epanalepsis overuse is widely disparaged by linguistic elites as a sign of insufferable snobbery amongst British introverts, Harvard graduates, hipsters, and other practitioners of epanalepsis overuse.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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