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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

    And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

    If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

    I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

    Me, neither. More than usual, these two candidates are both supremely bad. I can see a road to ruin for this my beloved country with either of them.

    Though I don't regard it as inevitable.

    My sole hope is that Biden, being of the political class and having spent beaucoup years in the political system, will be less of a loose cannon and may be more amenable to working with the other branch.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      @Larry said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      Who is Aqua Copper?

      Oops - need to edit! LOL

      Edited. LOL Copper and Aqua were right next to each other on my alaphet list. I had copper as R and Aqua as CL

      I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

      CL or no, I'll say this for nothing: I'm far more comfortable hanging with Trumpists these days than anyone woke.

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      @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

      Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

      But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

        And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

        If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

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        Larry
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        #25

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

        I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

        And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

        If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

        Why shouldn't I? Isn't that exactly what you did to me when you labeled me as a "Trumpist" and said I was a "follower"?

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        • LarryL Larry

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

          And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

          If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

          Why shouldn't I? Isn't that exactly what you did to me when you labeled me as a "Trumpist" and said I was a "follower"?

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          Doctor Phibes
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          @Larry said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

          I actually despair of the political situation. I don't see anything good happening.

          And for the record, I dislike enormously the flag burning, the rioting and looting, the chanting of 'fuck America' and so on.

          If you want to paint me as a villain or a hard-leftist, that's your prerogative, but it's still a load of laughable old bollocks.

          Why shouldn't I? Isn't that exactly what you did to me when you labeled me as a "Trumpist" and said I was a "follower"?

          Where did I do that? I actually called his followers trumpeters, which was supposed to be an amusing play on words.

          I know, I know, these are serious times. No room for humour when we're saving the world.

          I was only joking

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            #27

            "My sole hope is that Biden, being of the political class and having spent beaucoup years in the political system, will be less of a loose cannon and may be more amenable to working with the other branch."

            Biden has been in politics over 40 years. He didn't accomplish a damned thing during those 40 years, so there's no reason to believe he will now.

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              89th
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              #28

              Fun exercise @taiwan_girl ! Yes I’d put myself in CR for sure.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

                But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

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                Horace
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                @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

                But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

                Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                  Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

                  But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

                  MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  #30

                  @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                  Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

                  But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

                  No, anyone can be Objective. You have the market cornered on Objectionable. 😆

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                    I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                    Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

                    But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

                    Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    #31

                    @Horace said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                    @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                    I have no idea what I'd label myself as anymore. There's no prominent platform out there that doesn't subscribe to a Yellow Dog ideology, so to hell with all of them.

                    Obvious lobbying to join me in the Objective category is obvious.

                    But it isn’t going to work. Horace anointed me and me alone.

                    Well I have observed that you anointed yourself. But subtle subtleties are subtle.

                    Anointed. In this case it means "I didn't have a tissue handy".

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      For fun, I decided to see the politics composition of this forum board. I looked at all posters with 25 or more posts and ranked them into 4 categories. There were 35 people.

                      Right
                      Center Right
                      Center Left
                      Left

                      The percents were
                      R = 14
                      CR = 43
                      CL = 34
                      L = 9

                      Below is how I see the people. Anybody disagree? 🙂

                      89th CR
                      Aqua L CL
                      Copper R
                      Axtremus L
                      Bachophile CL
                      Brenda CR
                      CatsEye CL
                      Dr. Phibes CL
                      Friday CL
                      George CR
                      Horace R
                      ILM CR
                      Improviso R
                      IvoryThumper CR
                      Jeffery CR
                      Jolly R
                      Jon CL
                      Kincaid CR
                      Klaus CL
                      Kluurs CR
                      Larry R
                      Loki CR
                      LuFIns Dad CR
                      MarinerMike CR
                      Mark CR
                      Mik CR
                      Nobodys Sock L
                      Optimistic CL
                      Quantum CR
                      Rainman CR
                      Renauda CL
                      Rich CL
                      Taiwan Girl CL
                      WTG L
                      Xenon CL

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                      @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                      Klaus CL

                      In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

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                        Rainman
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                        #33

                        I count only three "L" in the list, but typical for the far left, the number is listed as 9. I almost rest my case.

                        Ax, Left? No way. He's right down the middle, sensible. Is there an "S" category? There should be. Me and Ax. Both "S's" and appropriately look down on everyone else.

                        You should all just be grateful that Me and Ax even talk to anyone else in the world, let alone any comrades here.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

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                          @Horace said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

                          It is shameful.

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                          • KlausK Klaus

                            @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                            Klaus CL

                            In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

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                            @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                            @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                            Klaus CL

                            In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

                            Acfually, I'd say Larry and I both would be classified as positively revolutionists...In 1776.

                            But yes, I would peg you as classical liberal...Which is pretty conservative in America...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              For fun, I decided to see the politics composition of this forum board. I looked at all posters with 25 or more posts and ranked them into 4 categories. There were 35 people.

                              Right
                              Center Right
                              Center Left
                              Left

                              The percents were
                              R = 14
                              CR = 43
                              CL = 34
                              L = 9

                              Below is how I see the people. Anybody disagree? 🙂

                              89th CR
                              Aqua L CL
                              Copper R
                              Axtremus L
                              Bachophile CL
                              Brenda CR
                              CatsEye CL
                              Dr. Phibes CL
                              Friday CL
                              George CR
                              Horace R
                              ILM CR
                              Improviso R
                              IvoryThumper CR
                              Jeffery CR
                              Jolly R
                              Jon CL
                              Kincaid CR
                              Klaus CL
                              Kluurs CR
                              Larry R
                              Loki CR
                              LuFIns Dad CR
                              MarinerMike CR
                              Mark CR
                              Mik CR
                              Nobodys Sock L
                              Optimistic CL
                              Quantum CR
                              Rainman CR
                              Renauda CL
                              Rich CL
                              Taiwan Girl CL
                              WTG L
                              Xenon CL

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                              Kincaid
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                              #36

                              @taiwan_girl

                              I would put myself at CR as well, mostly because of a few libertarian positions and because I support single payer Health Care. Almost everything else I am down right Republican.

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                                Loki
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                                #37

                                Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

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                                • KlausK Klaus

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                  Klaus CL

                                  In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #38

                                  @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                  Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

                                  AFD is far right. Not you.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • L Loki

                                    Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #39

                                    @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                    Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

                                    Yeah, great call.

                                    TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                      Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

                                      Yeah, great call.

                                      TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

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                                      @Aqua-Letifer
                                      Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
                                      Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

                                      BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
                                      Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
                                      Or, is that just bad grammar?

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                                      • RainmanR Rainman

                                        @Aqua-Letifer
                                        Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
                                        Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

                                        BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
                                        Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
                                        Or, is that just bad grammar?

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        #41

                                        @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                        Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                                        Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                                        And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #42

                                          All right, here is my ranking: 🙂

                                          Some notes:

                                          • It was tough, because some people I think are very close, but thought I would try. LOL

                                          • Others (for example 16-20, I dont have enough of a good feel to really tell)

                                          • What do you guys think?

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                                          Larry R 1
                                          Improviso R 2
                                          Copper R 3
                                          Jolly R 4
                                          Horace R 5
                                          IvoryThumper CR 6
                                          Brenda CR 7
                                          George CR 8
                                          Rainman CR 9
                                          LuFIns Dad CR 10
                                          Kincaid CR 11
                                          Loki CR 12
                                          89th CR 13
                                          Mik CR 14
                                          Mark CR 15
                                          MarinerMike CR 16
                                          Kluurs CR 17
                                          Jeffery CR 18
                                          ILM CR 19
                                          Quantum CR 20
                                          Renauda CL 21
                                          Klaus CL 22
                                          Aqua L CL 23
                                          Jon CL 24
                                          Xenon CL 25
                                          Taiwan Girl CL 26
                                          Bachophile CL 27
                                          Rich CL 28
                                          Dr. Phibes CL 29
                                          CatsEye CL 30
                                          Friday CL 31
                                          Optimistic CL 32
                                          Axtremus L 33
                                          WTG L 34
                                          Nobodys Sock L 35

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