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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

    Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

    Yeah, great call.

    TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

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    Rainman
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    #40

    @Aqua-Letifer
    Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
    Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

    BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
    Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
    Or, is that just bad grammar?

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      @Aqua-Letifer
      Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
      Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

      BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
      Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
      Or, is that just bad grammar?

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
      #41

      @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

      Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

      And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

      Please love yourself.

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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by
        #42

        All right, here is my ranking: 🙂

        Some notes:

        • It was tough, because some people I think are very close, but thought I would try. LOL

        • Others (for example 16-20, I dont have enough of a good feel to really tell)

        • What do you guys think?

        7aa6baf9-5d3f-4bc1-a290-39f05c6a8754-image.png
        Larry R 1
        Improviso R 2
        Copper R 3
        Jolly R 4
        Horace R 5
        IvoryThumper CR 6
        Brenda CR 7
        George CR 8
        Rainman CR 9
        LuFIns Dad CR 10
        Kincaid CR 11
        Loki CR 12
        89th CR 13
        Mik CR 14
        Mark CR 15
        MarinerMike CR 16
        Kluurs CR 17
        Jeffery CR 18
        ILM CR 19
        Quantum CR 20
        Renauda CL 21
        Klaus CL 22
        Aqua L CL 23
        Jon CL 24
        Xenon CL 25
        Taiwan Girl CL 26
        Bachophile CL 27
        Rich CL 28
        Dr. Phibes CL 29
        CatsEye CL 30
        Friday CL 31
        Optimistic CL 32
        Axtremus L 33
        WTG L 34
        Nobodys Sock L 35

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #43

          Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right eh jon? EH???

          I once met up with the next most liberal person relative to me and the next most conservative. True story. We had beers.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

            Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

            Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

            And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

            RainmanR Offline
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            Rainman
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            #44

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

            @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

            Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

            Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

            And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

            Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

            I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
            Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
            Epanalepsis. . .

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            • RainmanR Rainman

              @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

              @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

              Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

              Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

              And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

              Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

              I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
              Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
              Epanalepsis. . .

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              Aqua Letifer
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              #45

              @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

              Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.
              I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
              Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
              Epanalepsis. . .

              😄 If you wanna take the full plunge, get a copy of the Handlist of Rhetorical Terms. You'll be all set.

              Please love yourself.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #46

                Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                Markj more to the left

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                  Markj more to the left

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                  @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                  Markj more to the left

                  Good points. Just dont know Quantum enough (or have a good feel of him) to know. He is in my 16-20 group. LOL

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                    Markj more to the left

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #48

                    @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                    Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                    Markj more to the left

                    Be fun (although impractical unless Klaus is up for more web scraping) to compare this to total words shared. QI's not the most prolific so I can see how he'd be hard to rank.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      All right, here is my ranking: 🙂

                      Some notes:

                      • It was tough, because some people I think are very close, but thought I would try. LOL

                      • Others (for example 16-20, I dont have enough of a good feel to really tell)

                      • What do you guys think?

                      7aa6baf9-5d3f-4bc1-a290-39f05c6a8754-image.png
                      Larry R 1
                      Improviso R 2
                      Copper R 3
                      Jolly R 4
                      Horace R 5
                      IvoryThumper CR 6
                      Brenda CR 7
                      George CR 8
                      Rainman CR 9
                      LuFIns Dad CR 10
                      Kincaid CR 11
                      Loki CR 12
                      89th CR 13
                      Mik CR 14
                      Mark CR 15
                      MarinerMike CR 16
                      Kluurs CR 17
                      Jeffery CR 18
                      ILM CR 19
                      Quantum CR 20
                      Renauda CL 21
                      Klaus CL 22
                      Aqua L CL 23
                      Jon CL 24
                      Xenon CL 25
                      Taiwan Girl CL 26
                      Bachophile CL 27
                      Rich CL 28
                      Dr. Phibes CL 29
                      CatsEye CL 30
                      Friday CL 31
                      Optimistic CL 32
                      Axtremus L 33
                      WTG L 34
                      Nobodys Sock L 35

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #49

                      @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                      All right, here is my ranking:

                      Haha love it! Seems about right to me (at least FOR me).

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                        Horace
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                        I'm to the left of the right, and to the right of the center right. This is the true middle, which makes sense, since I am the most objective one.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #51

                          There you go impersonating important people again.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            I think QI and I come in at pretty similar points. Of course, I also thought I would come in a little to the left of Mik.

                            Of course, it also depends on the issue, how serious that individual takes the issue, and how important the observer seems the issue and their own stance.

                            The Brad

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                            • RainmanR Rainman

                              @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                              @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                              Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                              Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                              And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                              Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

                              I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                              Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                              Epanalepsis. . .

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                              @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                              Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that.

                              Epanalepsis overuse is widely disparaged by linguistic elites as a sign of insufferable snobbery amongst British introverts, Harvard graduates, hipsters, and other practitioners of epanalepsis overuse.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                #54

                                TG, you should rank how good looking we are next.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Online
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                                  Horace
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                                  I only say that because when Rainman sees where he is on that list, it will motivate him to finally lose that weight.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Rainman
                                    wrote on last edited by Rainman
                                    #56

                                    Yeah. I could go on a tongue diet.
                                    Make Gandhi look like a blimp.

                                    Not gonna happen.

                                    hrumph. Fat person calling another a fat person.

                                    That's an epanalepsis BTW. Bet you didn't know that.

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                                      Ha! For the little political posting I do now, it would not be easy to place me in the list. There are also many topics we never discuss here that put me very much in the center. I'm more likely to be closer to Mik. I suspect George would be, too.

                                      It doesn't matter really. It's difficult to create such a list from only posts here.

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                                      • HoraceH Online
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                                        My opinions are extraordinarily complex, subtle, and nuanced. It is wrong to place them on a flat one dimensional spectrum.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                          Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

                                          AFD is far right. Not you.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                          @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                          Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

                                          AFD is far right. Not you.

                                          Well, this is where the one-dimensional left-right spectrum is no longer suitable.

                                          The AFD is currently being torn apart. There are roughly two fractions: Those who want a party that is characterized by strong nationalism and socialist policies, similar to National Rally (formerly known as National Front) in France. I have nothing in common whatsoever with these people. There's another fraction that basically wants something like what the CDU used to be 20 years ago, or maybe a bit like the Tories in the UK. They could be described as roughly conservative and economically (classical) liberal. I have some sympathy for those people, but I don't like that they have these other idiots in the same party.

                                          But in any case, these days it is sufficient to be in favor of markets and capitalism or in favor of any form of immigration control to be deemed "far right" by many. In that sense I am far right, even though obviously I myself don't view it that way.

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