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  • RainmanR Offline
    RainmanR Offline
    Rainman
    wrote on last edited by
    #33

    I count only three "L" in the list, but typical for the far left, the number is listed as 9. I almost rest my case.

    Ax, Left? No way. He's right down the middle, sensible. Is there an "S" category? There should be. Me and Ax. Both "S's" and appropriately look down on everyone else.

    You should all just be grateful that Me and Ax even talk to anyone else in the world, let alone any comrades here.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

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      Copper
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      #34

      @Horace said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

      The only reason the visceral, destructive hatred of Trump isn't shameful is because all the people who feel it are surrounded by people who also feel it. These sorts of things only become shameful with historical perspective, if ever.

      It is shameful.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

        Klaus CL

        In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #35

        @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

        @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

        Klaus CL

        In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

        Acfually, I'd say Larry and I both would be classified as positively revolutionists...In 1776.

        But yes, I would peg you as classical liberal...Which is pretty conservative in America...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          For fun, I decided to see the politics composition of this forum board. I looked at all posters with 25 or more posts and ranked them into 4 categories. There were 35 people.

          Right
          Center Right
          Center Left
          Left

          The percents were
          R = 14
          CR = 43
          CL = 34
          L = 9

          Below is how I see the people. Anybody disagree? 🙂

          89th CR
          Aqua L CL
          Copper R
          Axtremus L
          Bachophile CL
          Brenda CR
          CatsEye CL
          Dr. Phibes CL
          Friday CL
          George CR
          Horace R
          ILM CR
          Improviso R
          IvoryThumper CR
          Jeffery CR
          Jolly R
          Jon CL
          Kincaid CR
          Klaus CL
          Kluurs CR
          Larry R
          Loki CR
          LuFIns Dad CR
          MarinerMike CR
          Mark CR
          Mik CR
          Nobodys Sock L
          Optimistic CL
          Quantum CR
          Rainman CR
          Renauda CL
          Rich CL
          Taiwan Girl CL
          WTG L
          Xenon CL

          KincaidK Offline
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          Kincaid
          wrote on last edited by
          #36

          @taiwan_girl

          I would put myself at CR as well, mostly because of a few libertarian positions and because I support single payer Health Care. Almost everything else I am down right Republican.

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          • L Offline
            L Offline
            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #37

            Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

            Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
            • KlausK Klaus

              @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

              Klaus CL

              In no country different from the US anyone would ever associate me with anything "left". If I'd have to label myself I'd say classical liberal and conservative. Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #38

              @Klaus said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

              Over here I'd be classified as far right in the current political climate.

              AFD is far right. Not you.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • L Loki

                Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #39

                @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

                Yeah, great call.

                TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @Loki said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                  Let’s make this interesting and rank the CL and CR in order.

                  Yeah, great call.

                  TG, what if you gave everyone a number: 0 being most liberal, 50 centrist, 100 being most conservative?

                  RainmanR Offline
                  RainmanR Offline
                  Rainman
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #40

                  @Aqua-Letifer
                  Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
                  Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

                  BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
                  Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
                  Or, is that just bad grammar?

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                  • RainmanR Rainman

                    @Aqua-Letifer
                    Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?
                    Guess I'm reading too much into it, being mostly perfect and all.

                    BTW - based on one of your interesting posts earlier:
                    Is there a term for a sentence which begins with a word, and ends with the same word? For example, "Obvious to those that know the distinction, that it is all completely obvious."
                    Or, is that just bad grammar?

                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on last edited by Aqua Letifer
                    #41

                    @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                    Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                    Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                    And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #42

                      All right, here is my ranking: 🙂

                      Some notes:

                      • It was tough, because some people I think are very close, but thought I would try. LOL

                      • Others (for example 16-20, I dont have enough of a good feel to really tell)

                      • What do you guys think?

                      7aa6baf9-5d3f-4bc1-a290-39f05c6a8754-image.png
                      Larry R 1
                      Improviso R 2
                      Copper R 3
                      Jolly R 4
                      Horace R 5
                      IvoryThumper CR 6
                      Brenda CR 7
                      George CR 8
                      Rainman CR 9
                      LuFIns Dad CR 10
                      Kincaid CR 11
                      Loki CR 12
                      89th CR 13
                      Mik CR 14
                      Mark CR 15
                      MarinerMike CR 16
                      Kluurs CR 17
                      Jeffery CR 18
                      ILM CR 19
                      Quantum CR 20
                      Renauda CL 21
                      Klaus CL 22
                      Aqua L CL 23
                      Jon CL 24
                      Xenon CL 25
                      Taiwan Girl CL 26
                      Bachophile CL 27
                      Rich CL 28
                      Dr. Phibes CL 29
                      CatsEye CL 30
                      Friday CL 31
                      Optimistic CL 32
                      Axtremus L 33
                      WTG L 34
                      Nobodys Sock L 35

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Offline
                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
                        Aqua Letifer
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #43

                        Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right eh jon? EH???

                        I once met up with the next most liberal person relative to me and the next most conservative. True story. We had beers.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                          Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                          And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                          RainmanR Offline
                          RainmanR Offline
                          Rainman
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #44

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                          Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                          Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                          And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                          Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

                          I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                          Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                          Epanalepsis. . .

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                          • RainmanR Rainman

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                            @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                            Aqua, did you mean good - better - best?

                            Nahh, arbitrary. I knew I'd be called on it, though.

                            And Epanalepsis is a repetition of a beginning phrase at the end of a line or sentence. One of the most well-known examples is Robert Frost's "Mending Wall": "To each the boulders that have fallen to each."

                            Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.

                            I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                            Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                            Epanalepsis. . .

                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua LetiferA Offline
                            Aqua Letifer
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                            #45

                            @Rainman said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                            Thanks! Epanalepsis. Epanalepsis. Need to remember that. I can imagine the shocked stupid look on peoples' faces when I casually remark on their use of an epanalepsis.
                            I can imagine the mumbling, "he's getting closer and closer to the middle of the bell curve!" What a compliment that would be!
                            Epanalepsis. Type it 100 times.
                            Epanalepsis. . .

                            😄 If you wanna take the full plunge, get a copy of the Handlist of Rhetorical Terms. You'll be all set.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #46

                              Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                              Markj more to the left

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                Markj more to the left

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                                taiwan_girl
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                                #47

                                @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                Markj more to the left

                                Good points. Just dont know Quantum enough (or have a good feel of him) to know. He is in my 16-20 group. LOL

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                  Markj more to the left

                                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                  Aqua Letifer
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #48

                                  @jon-nyc said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                  Again quibbling aside it isn’t bad, probably he most glaring misplacement is QI. He’s much more to the right I’d say.

                                  Markj more to the left

                                  Be fun (although impractical unless Klaus is up for more web scraping) to compare this to total words shared. QI's not the most prolific so I can see how he'd be hard to rank.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    All right, here is my ranking: 🙂

                                    Some notes:

                                    • It was tough, because some people I think are very close, but thought I would try. LOL

                                    • Others (for example 16-20, I dont have enough of a good feel to really tell)

                                    • What do you guys think?

                                    7aa6baf9-5d3f-4bc1-a290-39f05c6a8754-image.png
                                    Larry R 1
                                    Improviso R 2
                                    Copper R 3
                                    Jolly R 4
                                    Horace R 5
                                    IvoryThumper CR 6
                                    Brenda CR 7
                                    George CR 8
                                    Rainman CR 9
                                    LuFIns Dad CR 10
                                    Kincaid CR 11
                                    Loki CR 12
                                    89th CR 13
                                    Mik CR 14
                                    Mark CR 15
                                    MarinerMike CR 16
                                    Kluurs CR 17
                                    Jeffery CR 18
                                    ILM CR 19
                                    Quantum CR 20
                                    Renauda CL 21
                                    Klaus CL 22
                                    Aqua L CL 23
                                    Jon CL 24
                                    Xenon CL 25
                                    Taiwan Girl CL 26
                                    Bachophile CL 27
                                    Rich CL 28
                                    Dr. Phibes CL 29
                                    CatsEye CL 30
                                    Friday CL 31
                                    Optimistic CL 32
                                    Axtremus L 33
                                    WTG L 34
                                    Nobodys Sock L 35

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #49

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Doesn't Really Mean Anything, but fun thought exercise:

                                    All right, here is my ranking:

                                    Haha love it! Seems about right to me (at least FOR me).

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                                    • HoraceH Online
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                                      #50

                                      I'm to the left of the right, and to the right of the center right. This is the true middle, which makes sense, since I am the most objective one.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #51

                                        There you go impersonating important people again.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          I think QI and I come in at pretty similar points. Of course, I also thought I would come in a little to the left of Mik.

                                          Of course, it also depends on the issue, how serious that individual takes the issue, and how important the observer seems the issue and their own stance.

                                          The Brad

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