Debate day….
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wrote on 24 Aug 2023, 20:09 last edited by
Sure that is some brilliant video
But the phrase "racist dog-whistle" is actually a racist dog-whistle.
This man must be cancelled.
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wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 11:43 last edited by
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wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 13:29 last edited by
@George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL
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@George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL
wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 13:45 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:
@George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL
No, if you look at the first chart, you see Trump's support decline.
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wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 13:48 last edited by
@George-K said in Debate day….:
GOv Christie agrees.
“If Vivek thinks that Donald Trump is the greatest president of the 21st century, what the hell is he doing running?” Christie said. “He should drop out tomorrow.”
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wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 14:04 last edited by
One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
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The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek Ramaswamy -
One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
QUOTE
The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek Ramaswamywrote on 25 Aug 2023, 14:24 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:
One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
QUOTE
The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek RamaswamyNice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.
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@taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:
One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
QUOTE
The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek RamaswamyNice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.
wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 15:10 last edited by@Horace said in Debate day….:
Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.
As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?
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@Horace said in Debate day….:
Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.
As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?
wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 15:16 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:
@Horace said in Debate day….:
Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.
As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?
I actually didn't watch the whole thing. I have an extraordinarily busy lifestyle, and sometimes politics must take a back seat.
I've already posted my opinions about what I did see. Ramaswamy was cringier than I was hoping. However I can imagine that if that were the first time hearing his message, as I imagine it was for many viewers, it could have been compelling. My expectations were for the message and more maturity. He doesn't need to be 38 and also a kid acting like he's on a playground. I expect him to turn the maturity up a notch in the future debates. He's not a Trump character, unable to switch gears based on feedback and reflection. As for the other candidates, I thought Haley commanded the stage well and was effective when she tried to put Ramaswamy in his place. Christie can get the conservative never Trumper vote, fine, but he seemed like more of a comedian than a president. Pence is a plastic product of some kind.
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wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 16:09 last edited by
I would not categorize them in that rather stupid hierarchy.
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One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
QUOTE
The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek Ramaswamywrote on 25 Aug 2023, 17:04 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:
One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
QUOTE
The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek RamaswamyRon DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.
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@taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:
One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
QUOTE
The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek RamaswamyRon DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.
wrote on 25 Aug 2023, 23:51 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:
@taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:
One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
QUOTE
The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek RamaswamyRon DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.
@LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:
@taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:
One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.
QUOTE
The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.
Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.
Normal:
Nikki Haley
Asa HutchinsonSemi Normal:
Chris Christie
Doug BurgumAbnormal:
Mike Pence
Ron DeSantis
Tim Scott
Vivek RamaswamyRon DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.
My understanding (maybe incorrect) was that the labels related to how close to the center they were.
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wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 03:20 last edited by
Nobody normal is going to want to be President. It's a self-selecting freak show.
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wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 05:25 last edited by
Seen on Twitter:
Debate Summary:
- Nikki Haley was the least bad
- Vivek Ramaswamy is insufferable
- Ron DeSantis is the most awkward person alive
- Mike Pence might as well be in a Witness Protection Program
- Chris Christie is preaching to the wrong choir
You’re all caught up.
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wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 10:05 last edited by
The DNC didn't like any of them, huh?
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wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 12:21 last edited by
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wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 17:07 last edited by
I posted that in one of the Vivek threads.
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wrote on 26 Aug 2023, 17:10 last edited by
Let the record show that jon posted that meme from somewhere on the internet first.
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wrote on 19 Sept 2023, 01:13 last edited by
>Former President Donald Trump will travel to the battleground state of Michigan next week to meet with striking autoworkers instead of participating in the second Republican presidential debate, a person familiar with his plans said Monday.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-debate-strike-f79e9f0db53694206805d0bd3ae6683a
