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  • CopperC Offline
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    #93

    Sure that is some brilliant video

    But the phrase "racist dog-whistle" is actually a racist dog-whistle.

    This man must be cancelled.

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    • George KG Offline
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      #94

      From FiveThirtyEight: Who won?

      https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republican-debate-august-poll/

      Screenshot 2023-08-25 at 6.42.18 AM.png

      Screenshot 2023-08-25 at 6.42.08 AM.png

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #95

        @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #96

          @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

          @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

          No, if you look at the first chart, you see Trump's support decline.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

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            taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girlT Offline
            taiwan_girl
            wrote on last edited by
            #97

            @George-K said in Debate day….:

            F4Sn0DHXQAA6OjL.jpeg

            GOv Christie agrees.

            “If Vivek thinks that Donald Trump is the greatest president of the 21st century, what the hell is he doing running?” Christie said. “He should drop out tomorrow.”

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #98

              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

              QUOTE
              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

              Normal:
              Nikki Haley
              Asa Hutchinson

              Semi Normal:
              Chris Christie
              Doug Burgum

              Abnormal:
              Mike Pence
              Ron DeSantis
              Tim Scott
              Vivek Ramaswamy

              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

              HoraceH LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply
              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                QUOTE
                The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                Normal:
                Nikki Haley
                Asa Hutchinson

                Semi Normal:
                Chris Christie
                Doug Burgum

                Abnormal:
                Mike Pence
                Ron DeSantis
                Tim Scott
                Vivek Ramaswamy

                https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #99

                @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                QUOTE
                The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                Normal:
                Nikki Haley
                Asa Hutchinson

                Semi Normal:
                Chris Christie
                Doug Burgum

                Abnormal:
                Mike Pence
                Ron DeSantis
                Tim Scott
                Vivek Ramaswamy

                https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                Education is extremely important.

                taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                • HoraceH Horace

                  @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                  One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                  QUOTE
                  The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                  The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                  Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                  Normal:
                  Nikki Haley
                  Asa Hutchinson

                  Semi Normal:
                  Chris Christie
                  Doug Burgum

                  Abnormal:
                  Mike Pence
                  Ron DeSantis
                  Tim Scott
                  Vivek Ramaswamy

                  https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                  Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                  taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #100

                  @Horace said in Debate day….:

                  Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                  As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Horace said in Debate day….:

                    Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                    As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #101

                    @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                    @Horace said in Debate day….:

                    Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                    As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

                    I actually didn't watch the whole thing. I have an extraordinarily busy lifestyle, and sometimes politics must take a back seat.

                    I've already posted my opinions about what I did see. Ramaswamy was cringier than I was hoping. However I can imagine that if that were the first time hearing his message, as I imagine it was for many viewers, it could have been compelling. My expectations were for the message and more maturity. He doesn't need to be 38 and also a kid acting like he's on a playground. I expect him to turn the maturity up a notch in the future debates. He's not a Trump character, unable to switch gears based on feedback and reflection. As for the other candidates, I thought Haley commanded the stage well and was effective when she tried to put Ramaswamy in his place. Christie can get the conservative never Trumper vote, fine, but he seemed like more of a comedian than a president. Pence is a plastic product of some kind.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #102

                      I would not categorize them in that rather stupid hierarchy.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                        QUOTE
                        The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                        The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                        Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                        Normal:
                        Nikki Haley
                        Asa Hutchinson

                        Semi Normal:
                        Chris Christie
                        Doug Burgum

                        Abnormal:
                        Mike Pence
                        Ron DeSantis
                        Tim Scott
                        Vivek Ramaswamy

                        https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins DadL Offline
                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #103

                        @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                        One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                        QUOTE
                        The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                        The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                        Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                        Normal:
                        Nikki Haley
                        Asa Hutchinson

                        Semi Normal:
                        Chris Christie
                        Doug Burgum

                        Abnormal:
                        Mike Pence
                        Ron DeSantis
                        Tim Scott
                        Vivek Ramaswamy

                        https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                        Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                          One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                          QUOTE
                          The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                          The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                          Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                          Normal:
                          Nikki Haley
                          Asa Hutchinson

                          Semi Normal:
                          Chris Christie
                          Doug Burgum

                          Abnormal:
                          Mike Pence
                          Ron DeSantis
                          Tim Scott
                          Vivek Ramaswamy

                          https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                          Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                          taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #104

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

                          @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                          One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                          QUOTE
                          The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                          The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                          Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                          Normal:
                          Nikki Haley
                          Asa Hutchinson

                          Semi Normal:
                          Chris Christie
                          Doug Burgum

                          Abnormal:
                          Mike Pence
                          Ron DeSantis
                          Tim Scott
                          Vivek Ramaswamy

                          https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                          Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

                          @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                          One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                          QUOTE
                          The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                          The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                          Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                          Normal:
                          Nikki Haley
                          Asa Hutchinson

                          Semi Normal:
                          Chris Christie
                          Doug Burgum

                          Abnormal:
                          Mike Pence
                          Ron DeSantis
                          Tim Scott
                          Vivek Ramaswamy

                          https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                          Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                          My understanding (maybe incorrect) was that the labels related to how close to the center they were.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #105

                            Nobody normal is going to want to be President. It's a self-selecting freak show.

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #106

                              Seen on Twitter:

                              Debate Summary:

                              • Nikki Haley was the least bad
                              • Vivek Ramaswamy is insufferable
                              • Ron DeSantis is the most awkward person alive
                              • Mike Pence might as well be in a Witness Protection Program
                              • Chris Christie is preaching to the wrong choir

                              You’re all caught up.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #107

                                The DNC didn't like any of them, huh?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #108

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #109

                                    I posted that in one of the Vivek threads.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • HoraceH Offline
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #110

                                      Let the record show that jon posted that meme from somewhere on the internet first.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        #111

                                        >Former President Donald Trump will travel to the battleground state of Michigan next week to meet with striking autoworkers instead of participating in the second Republican presidential debate, a person familiar with his plans said Monday.

                                        https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-debate-strike-f79e9f0db53694206805d0bd3ae6683a

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