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  • N NobodySock

    Link to video

    LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #90

    @NobodySock That video changes everything! Thank you so much for changing my life! I will move on as a different man and it’s all thanks to you and that video. Everything that I accomplish from here on out will be due in some way to you and your influence on my life.

    The Brad

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    • N Offline
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      NobodySock
      wrote on last edited by
      #91

      glad to remove the veil covering your eyes.

      Now that you can see, it's time to truly be a patriot like me, instead of a whining right wing rube who actually hates America. Projection will only go so far.

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      • N Offline
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        NobodySock
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        #92

        Link to video

        Here is an example of a patriot in case you need a hand in the right direction

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        • CopperC Offline
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          Copper
          wrote on last edited by
          #93

          Sure that is some brilliant video

          But the phrase "racist dog-whistle" is actually a racist dog-whistle.

          This man must be cancelled.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #94

            From FiveThirtyEight: Who won?

            https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republican-debate-august-poll/

            Screenshot 2023-08-25 at 6.42.18 AM.png

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #95

              @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #96

                @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

                No, if you look at the first chart, you see Trump's support decline.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

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                  taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #97

                  @George-K said in Debate day….:

                  F4Sn0DHXQAA6OjL.jpeg

                  GOv Christie agrees.

                  “If Vivek thinks that Donald Trump is the greatest president of the 21st century, what the hell is he doing running?” Christie said. “He should drop out tomorrow.”

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #98

                    One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                    QUOTE
                    The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                    The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                    Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                    Normal:
                    Nikki Haley
                    Asa Hutchinson

                    Semi Normal:
                    Chris Christie
                    Doug Burgum

                    Abnormal:
                    Mike Pence
                    Ron DeSantis
                    Tim Scott
                    Vivek Ramaswamy

                    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                    HoraceH LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply
                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                      QUOTE
                      The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                      The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                      Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                      Normal:
                      Nikki Haley
                      Asa Hutchinson

                      Semi Normal:
                      Chris Christie
                      Doug Burgum

                      Abnormal:
                      Mike Pence
                      Ron DeSantis
                      Tim Scott
                      Vivek Ramaswamy

                      https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #99

                      @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                      One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                      QUOTE
                      The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                      The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                      Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                      Normal:
                      Nikki Haley
                      Asa Hutchinson

                      Semi Normal:
                      Chris Christie
                      Doug Burgum

                      Abnormal:
                      Mike Pence
                      Ron DeSantis
                      Tim Scott
                      Vivek Ramaswamy

                      https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                      Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                      Education is extremely important.

                      taiwan_girlT 1 Reply Last reply
                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                        One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                        QUOTE
                        The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                        The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                        Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                        Normal:
                        Nikki Haley
                        Asa Hutchinson

                        Semi Normal:
                        Chris Christie
                        Doug Burgum

                        Abnormal:
                        Mike Pence
                        Ron DeSantis
                        Tim Scott
                        Vivek Ramaswamy

                        https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                        Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                        taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #100

                        @Horace said in Debate day….:

                        Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                        As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @Horace said in Debate day….:

                          Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                          As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

                          HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #101

                          @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                          @Horace said in Debate day….:

                          Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                          As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

                          I actually didn't watch the whole thing. I have an extraordinarily busy lifestyle, and sometimes politics must take a back seat.

                          I've already posted my opinions about what I did see. Ramaswamy was cringier than I was hoping. However I can imagine that if that were the first time hearing his message, as I imagine it was for many viewers, it could have been compelling. My expectations were for the message and more maturity. He doesn't need to be 38 and also a kid acting like he's on a playground. I expect him to turn the maturity up a notch in the future debates. He's not a Trump character, unable to switch gears based on feedback and reflection. As for the other candidates, I thought Haley commanded the stage well and was effective when she tried to put Ramaswamy in his place. Christie can get the conservative never Trumper vote, fine, but he seemed like more of a comedian than a president. Pence is a plastic product of some kind.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #102

                            I would not categorize them in that rather stupid hierarchy.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                              QUOTE
                              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                              Normal:
                              Nikki Haley
                              Asa Hutchinson

                              Semi Normal:
                              Chris Christie
                              Doug Burgum

                              Abnormal:
                              Mike Pence
                              Ron DeSantis
                              Tim Scott
                              Vivek Ramaswamy

                              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                              LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
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                              #103

                              @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                              QUOTE
                              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                              Normal:
                              Nikki Haley
                              Asa Hutchinson

                              Semi Normal:
                              Chris Christie
                              Doug Burgum

                              Abnormal:
                              Mike Pence
                              Ron DeSantis
                              Tim Scott
                              Vivek Ramaswamy

                              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                              Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                                One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                                QUOTE
                                The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                                The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                                Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                                Normal:
                                Nikki Haley
                                Asa Hutchinson

                                Semi Normal:
                                Chris Christie
                                Doug Burgum

                                Abnormal:
                                Mike Pence
                                Ron DeSantis
                                Tim Scott
                                Vivek Ramaswamy

                                https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                                Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #104

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                                One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                                QUOTE
                                The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                                The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                                Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                                Normal:
                                Nikki Haley
                                Asa Hutchinson

                                Semi Normal:
                                Chris Christie
                                Doug Burgum

                                Abnormal:
                                Mike Pence
                                Ron DeSantis
                                Tim Scott
                                Vivek Ramaswamy

                                https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                                Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

                                @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                                One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                                QUOTE
                                The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                                The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                                Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                                Normal:
                                Nikki Haley
                                Asa Hutchinson

                                Semi Normal:
                                Chris Christie
                                Doug Burgum

                                Abnormal:
                                Mike Pence
                                Ron DeSantis
                                Tim Scott
                                Vivek Ramaswamy

                                https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                                Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                                My understanding (maybe incorrect) was that the labels related to how close to the center they were.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #105

                                  Nobody normal is going to want to be President. It's a self-selecting freak show.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #106

                                    Seen on Twitter:

                                    Debate Summary:

                                    • Nikki Haley was the least bad
                                    • Vivek Ramaswamy is insufferable
                                    • Ron DeSantis is the most awkward person alive
                                    • Mike Pence might as well be in a Witness Protection Program
                                    • Chris Christie is preaching to the wrong choir

                                    You’re all caught up.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      #107

                                      The DNC didn't like any of them, huh?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #108

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #109

                                          I posted that in one of the Vivek threads.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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