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Debate day….

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  • N Offline
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    NobodySock
    wrote on last edited by
    #91

    glad to remove the veil covering your eyes.

    Now that you can see, it's time to truly be a patriot like me, instead of a whining right wing rube who actually hates America. Projection will only go so far.

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      NobodySock
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      #92

      Link to video

      Here is an example of a patriot in case you need a hand in the right direction

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #93

        Sure that is some brilliant video

        But the phrase "racist dog-whistle" is actually a racist dog-whistle.

        This man must be cancelled.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #94

          From FiveThirtyEight: Who won?

          https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/republican-debate-august-poll/

          Screenshot 2023-08-25 at 6.42.18 AM.png

          Screenshot 2023-08-25 at 6.42.08 AM.png

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • taiwan_girlT Offline
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            taiwan_girl
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            #95

            @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

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              George K
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              #96

              @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

              @George-K So everybody is a winner!!! LOL

              No, if you look at the first chart, you see Trump's support decline.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

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                taiwan_girlT Offline
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                taiwan_girl
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                #97

                @George-K said in Debate day….:

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                GOv Christie agrees.

                “If Vivek thinks that Donald Trump is the greatest president of the 21st century, what the hell is he doing running?” Christie said. “He should drop out tomorrow.”

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  taiwan_girl
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                  #98

                  One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                  QUOTE
                  The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                  The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                  Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                  Normal:
                  Nikki Haley
                  Asa Hutchinson

                  Semi Normal:
                  Chris Christie
                  Doug Burgum

                  Abnormal:
                  Mike Pence
                  Ron DeSantis
                  Tim Scott
                  Vivek Ramaswamy

                  https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                  HoraceH LuFins DadL 2 Replies Last reply
                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                    QUOTE
                    The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                    The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                    Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                    Normal:
                    Nikki Haley
                    Asa Hutchinson

                    Semi Normal:
                    Chris Christie
                    Doug Burgum

                    Abnormal:
                    Mike Pence
                    Ron DeSantis
                    Tim Scott
                    Vivek Ramaswamy

                    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                    HoraceH Online
                    HoraceH Online
                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #99

                    @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                    One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                    QUOTE
                    The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                    The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                    Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                    Normal:
                    Nikki Haley
                    Asa Hutchinson

                    Semi Normal:
                    Chris Christie
                    Doug Burgum

                    Abnormal:
                    Mike Pence
                    Ron DeSantis
                    Tim Scott
                    Vivek Ramaswamy

                    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                    Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                      One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                      QUOTE
                      The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                      The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                      Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                      Normal:
                      Nikki Haley
                      Asa Hutchinson

                      Semi Normal:
                      Chris Christie
                      Doug Burgum

                      Abnormal:
                      Mike Pence
                      Ron DeSantis
                      Tim Scott
                      Vivek Ramaswamy

                      https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                      Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #100

                      @Horace said in Debate day….:

                      Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                      As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

                      HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @Horace said in Debate day….:

                        Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                        As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

                        HoraceH Online
                        HoraceH Online
                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #101

                        @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                        @Horace said in Debate day….:

                        Nice to get the opinion of a random democrat voter.

                        As a random Republic voter, how would you categorize the candidates?

                        I actually didn't watch the whole thing. I have an extraordinarily busy lifestyle, and sometimes politics must take a back seat.

                        I've already posted my opinions about what I did see. Ramaswamy was cringier than I was hoping. However I can imagine that if that were the first time hearing his message, as I imagine it was for many viewers, it could have been compelling. My expectations were for the message and more maturity. He doesn't need to be 38 and also a kid acting like he's on a playground. I expect him to turn the maturity up a notch in the future debates. He's not a Trump character, unable to switch gears based on feedback and reflection. As for the other candidates, I thought Haley commanded the stage well and was effective when she tried to put Ramaswamy in his place. Christie can get the conservative never Trumper vote, fine, but he seemed like more of a comedian than a president. Pence is a plastic product of some kind.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #102

                          I would not categorize them in that rather stupid hierarchy.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                            QUOTE
                            The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                            The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                            Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                            Normal:
                            Nikki Haley
                            Asa Hutchinson

                            Semi Normal:
                            Chris Christie
                            Doug Burgum

                            Abnormal:
                            Mike Pence
                            Ron DeSantis
                            Tim Scott
                            Vivek Ramaswamy

                            https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                            LuFins DadL Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #103

                            @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                            One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                            QUOTE
                            The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                            The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                            Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                            Normal:
                            Nikki Haley
                            Asa Hutchinson

                            Semi Normal:
                            Chris Christie
                            Doug Burgum

                            Abnormal:
                            Mike Pence
                            Ron DeSantis
                            Tim Scott
                            Vivek Ramaswamy

                            https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                            Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                              QUOTE
                              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                              Normal:
                              Nikki Haley
                              Asa Hutchinson

                              Semi Normal:
                              Chris Christie
                              Doug Burgum

                              Abnormal:
                              Mike Pence
                              Ron DeSantis
                              Tim Scott
                              Vivek Ramaswamy

                              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                              Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                              taiwan_girlT Offline
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                              taiwan_girl
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                              #104

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                              QUOTE
                              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                              Normal:
                              Nikki Haley
                              Asa Hutchinson

                              Semi Normal:
                              Chris Christie
                              Doug Burgum

                              Abnormal:
                              Mike Pence
                              Ron DeSantis
                              Tim Scott
                              Vivek Ramaswamy

                              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                              Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Debate day….:

                              @taiwan_girl said in Debate day….:

                              One opinion on the current state of the "GOP" candidates.

                              QUOTE
                              The first Republican presidential debate on Aug. 23 revealed three categories of candidates: a couple who might be sensible pragmatists, a couple others who might be sensible if they weren’t trying to contort themselves into ruthless conservatives, and a third group in hot pursuit of the fringiest elements of the GOP.

                              The most sensible candidates don’t always win national elections.

                              Many voters value performance over substance or want somebody who makes them feel good rather than promising responsible governance. ....... it’s likely the GOP nominee will be a bomb-thrower rather than a Reaganite establishmentarian.

                              Normal:
                              Nikki Haley
                              Asa Hutchinson

                              Semi Normal:
                              Chris Christie
                              Doug Burgum

                              Abnormal:
                              Mike Pence
                              Ron DeSantis
                              Tim Scott
                              Vivek Ramaswamy

                              https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/there-might-be-3-normalish-republican-presidential-candidates-180854063.html

                              Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott carry the highest favorability rating of any candidates including the Democrats. I wouldn’t call that abnormal.

                              My understanding (maybe incorrect) was that the labels related to how close to the center they were.

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #105

                                Nobody normal is going to want to be President. It's a self-selecting freak show.

                                I was only joking

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #106

                                  Seen on Twitter:

                                  Debate Summary:

                                  • Nikki Haley was the least bad
                                  • Vivek Ramaswamy is insufferable
                                  • Ron DeSantis is the most awkward person alive
                                  • Mike Pence might as well be in a Witness Protection Program
                                  • Chris Christie is preaching to the wrong choir

                                  You’re all caught up.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #107

                                    The DNC didn't like any of them, huh?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      #108

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #109

                                        I posted that in one of the Vivek threads.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • HoraceH Online
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                                          Horace
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                                          #110

                                          Let the record show that jon posted that meme from somewhere on the internet first.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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