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Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023)

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #25

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/27/us/politics/house-republicans-lloyd-austin-salary.html

    House GOP voted to reduce Defense Secretary's salary to $1 (a Majorie Taylor Greene proposal), "to bar the Pentagon from implementing Mr. Biden’s climate change-related executive orders or requiring service members to receive the coronavirus vaccine", an to strip "funding for the Pentagon’s office of diversity, equity and inclusion."

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    • 89th8 Online
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      89th
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      #26

      Yes, most of the time government employees are paid for their time off. And most of the time contractors are not paid unless their work is deemed mission critical or essential. I believe the are about 3 or 4 million federal contractors.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #27

        How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #28

          @taiwan_girl said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

          How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

          Works for me...

          Good luck getting that passed through <checks notes> Congress.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
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            #29

            There is a Constitutional roadblock to suspending the pay for Congress.

            The 27th Amendment:

            No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              There is a Constitutional roadblock to suspending the pay for Congress.

              The 27th Amendment:

              No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

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              taiwan_girl
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              #30

              @Axtremus Of course! 555

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              • AxtremusA Offline
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                #31

                https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/28/politics/shutdown-latest-government-funding/index.html

                Congress on track for shutdown as GOP divisions on full display after late night votes

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  #32

                  For the 5 or so representatives, this is their peak I think. While possible, it is doubtful that the next election will result in the same Reb vs. Dem breakdown. If the Reb have a higher majority, it is possible that 6 votes will not be needed. If the Dem have the majority, then obviously, they will not be needed.

                  And I think that the Reb leadership has a long memory.

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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    #33

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hardline-republican-holdouts-push-us-government-closer-shutdown-2023-09-29/

                    Just for good measure, House Republicans reject their own funding bill one more time just before government shutdown.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      #34

                      McCarthy is trying to run the circus from the monkey cages.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
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                        #35

                        This true?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • AxtremusA Offline
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                          Axtremus
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                          #36

                          https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/09/30/congress/stopgap-passes-00119280

                          the House on Saturday took an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote to avert a shutdown at midnight on Sunday — with the majority of Democrats bailing out the GOP.
                          …
                          McCarthy shocked his party — and most on the Hill — by deciding to put a "clean" bill on the floor that could be enough to doom his speakership. The short-term funding patch that passed includes none of the GOP’s spending cuts or border policies. The only addition: $16 billion for [flood] disaster aid sought by the White House.

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                          • George KG George K

                            This true?

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                            jon-nyc
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                            #37

                            @George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                            This true?

                            I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                              This true?

                              I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

                              AxtremusA Offline
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                              Axtremus
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                              #38

                              @jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                              @George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                              This true?

                              I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

                              The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.

                              https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/

                              The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                @George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                This true?

                                I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

                                The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.

                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/

                                The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.

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                                @Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                @jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                @George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                This true?

                                I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

                                The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.

                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/

                                The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.

                                Sharper than a Mexican rowel, not.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                  @jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                  @George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                  This true?

                                  I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

                                  The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.

                                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/

                                  The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.

                                  Sharper than a Mexican rowel, not.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
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                                  #40

                                  @Jolly said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                  rowel

                                  Now there's a word I haven't heard in about 15 years.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #41

                                    The vote count:
                                    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-tees-up-votes-last-minute-scramble-avert-shutdown-2023-09-30/

                                    Overall: 391 for, 91 against
                                    Among those voted to pass the 45-day funding bill, 209 are Democrats, 126 are Republicans.

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                                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by Axtremus
                                      #42

                                      The Senate passed the bill, and Biden signed it:

                                      https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/30/politics/us-government-shutdown-latest/index.html

                                      Looks like there will be no government shutdown.

                                      Let's see if the House GOP will try to remove McCarthy from Speakership comes Monday. Anyone wants to start a pool on this? 🍿 🍿 🍿

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #43

                                        Now, you can sleep peacefully, knowing once again the Republic is safe.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • AxtremusA Offline
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                                          Axtremus
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                                          #44

                                          The Republic is indeed safer with an operating federal government than without. Let's see how Congress do with a separate Ukraine funding bill that's supposed to make up for its omission from the Sep.30 government funding bill. If that goes well and quickly, I will sleep even better knowing that the world is safer too.

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