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Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023)

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #18

    And you know what? All those government employees get a paid vacation, because all of those paychecks are coming as soon as a continuing resolution is signed.

    Oh, whoa is me! They're going to make me take off and pay me for it!

    Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      And you know what? All those government employees get a paid vacation, because all of those paychecks are coming as soon as a continuing resolution is signed.

      Oh, whoa is me! They're going to make me take off and pay me for it!

      Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

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      Axtremus
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      #19

      @Jolly said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

      And you know what? All those government employees get a paid vacation, because all of those paychecks are coming as soon as a continuing resolution is signed.

      Oh, woe is me! They're going to make me take off and pay me for it!

      Oh, the House Republicans like to give federal government employees paid vacations! Who would’ve thunk it?

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @Jolly said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

        And you know what? All those government employees get a paid vacation, because all of those paychecks are coming as soon as a continuing resolution is signed.

        Oh, woe is me! They're going to make me take off and pay me for it!

        Oh, the House Republicans like to give federal government employees paid vacations! Who would’ve thunk it?

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        Jolly
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        @Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

        @Jolly said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

        And you know what? All those government employees get a paid vacation, because all of those paychecks are coming as soon as a continuing resolution is signed.

        Oh, woe is me! They're going to make me take off and pay me for it!

        Oh, the House Republicans like to give federal government employees paid vacations! Who would’ve thunk it?

        I think it's mighty white of them.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          And you know what? All those government employees get a paid vacation, because all of those paychecks are coming as soon as a continuing resolution is signed.

          Oh, whoa is me! They're going to make me take off and pay me for it!

          Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

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          #21

          @Jolly said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

          And you know what? All those government employees get a paid vacation, because all of those paychecks are coming as soon as a continuing resolution is signed.

          Oh, whoa is me! They're going to make me take off and pay me for it!

          Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

          Not all of 'em.

          The last few times this has happened, some govvies did exactly as you say. Others weren't paid for that time and never recouped. Still others were paid for that time six months down the line. Depending on the budget situation your branch operates under, shutdowns can affect you very differently from someone across the street.

          Please love yourself.

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            If I’m not mistaken, “contractors” are not paid back for time not worked while the government is shutdown, and the US government uses a lot of contractors.

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              #23

              Welcome to contracting with the government.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                If I’m not mistaken, “contractors” are not paid back for time not worked while the government is shutdown, and the US government uses a lot of contractors.

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                @Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                If I’m not mistaken, “contractors” are not paid back for time not worked while the government is shutdown, and the US government uses a lot of contractors.

                You are mistaken. It depends on (1) how the budget for that department is handled and (2) the arrangement made between the government agency and the contracting company.

                Please love yourself.

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                  https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/27/us/politics/house-republicans-lloyd-austin-salary.html

                  House GOP voted to reduce Defense Secretary's salary to $1 (a Majorie Taylor Greene proposal), "to bar the Pentagon from implementing Mr. Biden’s climate change-related executive orders or requiring service members to receive the coronavirus vaccine", an to strip "funding for the Pentagon’s office of diversity, equity and inclusion."

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                    Yes, most of the time government employees are paid for their time off. And most of the time contractors are not paid unless their work is deemed mission critical or essential. I believe the are about 3 or 4 million federal contractors.

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                      #27

                      How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

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                        George K
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                        @taiwan_girl said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                        How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

                        Works for me...

                        Good luck getting that passed through <checks notes> Congress.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          There is a Constitutional roadblock to suspending the pay for Congress.

                          The 27th Amendment:

                          No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            There is a Constitutional roadblock to suspending the pay for Congress.

                            The 27th Amendment:

                            No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

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                            @Axtremus Of course! 555

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                              https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/28/politics/shutdown-latest-government-funding/index.html

                              Congress on track for shutdown as GOP divisions on full display after late night votes

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                                For the 5 or so representatives, this is their peak I think. While possible, it is doubtful that the next election will result in the same Reb vs. Dem breakdown. If the Reb have a higher majority, it is possible that 6 votes will not be needed. If the Dem have the majority, then obviously, they will not be needed.

                                And I think that the Reb leadership has a long memory.

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                                  https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hardline-republican-holdouts-push-us-government-closer-shutdown-2023-09-29/

                                  Just for good measure, House Republicans reject their own funding bill one more time just before government shutdown.

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                                    McCarthy is trying to run the circus from the monkey cages.

                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      This true?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/09/30/congress/stopgap-passes-00119280

                                        the House on Saturday took an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote to avert a shutdown at midnight on Sunday — with the majority of Democrats bailing out the GOP.
                                        …
                                        McCarthy shocked his party — and most on the Hill — by deciding to put a "clean" bill on the floor that could be enough to doom his speakership. The short-term funding patch that passed includes none of the GOP’s spending cuts or border policies. The only addition: $16 billion for [flood] disaster aid sought by the White House.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          This true?

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                                          #37

                                          @George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

                                          This true?

                                          I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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