Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023)

[Aqua Letifer]

@Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

If I’m not mistaken, “contractors” are not paid back for time not worked while the government is shutdown, and the US government uses a lot of contractors.

You are mistaken. It depends on (1) how the budget for that department is handled and (2) the arrangement made between the government agency and the contracting company.

[Axtremus]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/27/us/politics/house-republicans-lloyd-austin-salary.html

House GOP voted to reduce Defense Secretary's salary to $1 (a Majorie Taylor Greene proposal), "to bar the Pentagon from implementing Mr. Biden’s climate change-related executive orders or requiring service members to receive the coronavirus vaccine", an to strip "funding for the Pentagon’s office of diversity, equity and inclusion."

[89th]

Yes, most of the time government employees are paid for their time off. And most of the time contractors are not paid unless their work is deemed mission critical or essential. I believe the are about 3 or 4 million federal contractors.

[taiwan_girl]

How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

[George K]

@taiwan_girl said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

How does this work for the Congress? Eliminate their pay during a shutdown and have no chance of reimbursement.

Works for me...

Good luck getting that passed through <checks notes> Congress.

[Axtremus]

There is a Constitutional roadblock to suspending the pay for Congress.

The 27th Amendment:

No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

[taiwan_girl]

@Axtremus Of course! 555

[Axtremus]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/28/politics/shutdown-latest-government-funding/index.html

Congress on track for shutdown as GOP divisions on full display after late night votes

[taiwan_girl]

For the 5 or so representatives, this is their peak I think. While possible, it is doubtful that the next election will result in the same Reb vs. Dem breakdown. If the Reb have a higher majority, it is possible that 6 votes will not be needed. If the Dem have the majority, then obviously, they will not be needed.

And I think that the Reb leadership has a long memory.

[Axtremus]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hardline-republican-holdouts-push-us-government-closer-shutdown-2023-09-29/

Just for good measure, House Republicans reject their own funding bill one more time just before government shutdown.

[jon-nyc]

McCarthy is trying to run the circus from the monkey cages.

[George K]

This true?

[Axtremus]

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/09/30/congress/stopgap-passes-00119280

the House on Saturday took an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote to avert a shutdown at midnight on Sunday — with the majority of Democrats bailing out the GOP.
…
McCarthy shocked his party — and most on the Hill — by deciding to put a "clean" bill on the floor that could be enough to doom his speakership. The short-term funding patch that passed includes none of the GOP’s spending cuts or border policies. The only addition: $16 billion for [flood] disaster aid sought by the White House.

[jon-nyc]

[Axtremus]

@jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

This true?

I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/

The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

@jon-nyc said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

@George-K said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

This true?

I hope so. I’d rather bureaucrats sit on their hands for a while than Russia rebuild its empire.

The House passed spending bill has no money for Ukraine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/30/ukraine-aid-government-shutdown/

The GOP's support for Russia, in this case to snuff out a democracy, is inexplicable.

Sharper than a Mexican rowel, not.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Another “Government Shutdown” Fight Coming? (Sep. 2023):

rowel

Now there's a word I haven't heard in about 15 years.

[Axtremus]

The vote count:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-congress-tees-up-votes-last-minute-scramble-avert-shutdown-2023-09-30/

Overall: 391 for, 91 against
Among those voted to pass the 45-day funding bill, 209 are Democrats, 126 are Republicans.

[Axtremus]

The Senate passed the bill, and Biden signed it:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/30/politics/us-government-shutdown-latest/index.html

Looks like there will be no government shutdown.

Let's see if the House GOP will try to remove McCarthy from Speakership comes Monday. Anyone wants to start a pool on this?

[Jolly]

Now, you can sleep peacefully, knowing once again the Republic is safe.