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Roe & Casey overturned.

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  • H Horace
    14 Jul 2022, 18:35

    So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

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    George K
    wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 18:40 last edited by
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    @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

    So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

    The important question is whether he is a white Hispanic or not.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • J Jolly
      7 Jul 2022, 12:38

      Shouldn't be that way.

      With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

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      NobodySock
      wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 19:01 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

      Shouldn't be that way.

      With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

      Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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      • N NobodySock
        14 Jul 2022, 19:01

        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

        Shouldn't be that way.

        With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

        Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 20:33 last edited by
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        @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

        Shouldn't be that way.

        With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

        Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

        Hard to do, when the courts won't admit what evidence that was gathered.

        Did you enjoy 2000 Mules?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • H Horace
          14 Jul 2022, 18:35

          So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 14 Jul 2022, 20:35 last edited by
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          @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

          So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.

          Well...That means The Resident will quit talking about this and move on.

          Run away! Run away!

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 08:20 last edited by
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            https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn5mn/ohio-rape-abortion-child-americans-united-for-life

            Catherine Glenn Foster, the head of Americans United for Life, had this to say in Congress:

            “If a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape and it was threatening her life, then that’s not an abortion,”

            The nonsensical denial is really strong in this one.

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            • N NobodySock
              14 Jul 2022, 19:01

              @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

              Shouldn't be that way.

              With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

              Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

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              Larry
              wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 10:27 last edited by
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              @NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

              @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

              Shouldn't be that way.

              With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.

              Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.

              You mean like Hillary claimed? Twice? Like Al Gore claimed?

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                George K
                wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 21:38 last edited by
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                AOC is unclear on the concept.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 21:59 last edited by
                  #259

                  It’s her emotional truth.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • H Horace
                    15 Jul 2022, 21:59

                    It’s her emotional truth.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 15 Jul 2022, 22:07 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                    It’s her emotional truth.

                    "Alternative Facts!" FTW.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 03:16 last edited by Axtremus
                      #261

                      https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                      The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                      An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                      ...


                      Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                      • A Axtremus
                        16 Jul 2022, 03:16

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                        The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                        An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                        ...


                        Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 04:21 last edited by
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                        @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                        The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                        An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                        ...


                        Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                        Well, that is just a reading comprehension fail on your part. There is no threat to prosecute for performing the abortion.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • A Axtremus
                          16 Jul 2022, 03:16

                          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                          The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                          An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                          ...


                          Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 16 Jul 2022, 11:12 last edited by
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                          @Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                          https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/15/indiana-doc-abortion-10-year-old-ag-cease-and-desist-00046156


                          The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.

                          An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
                          ...


                          Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.

                          Uh, no.

                          Get your facts straight and get back to us.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
                            wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:54 last edited by
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                            This is what democracy looks like, as Dobbs intended.

                            Kansas voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly struck down a proposed constitutional amendment that would remove language enshrining reproductive rights in their state, in a move widely seen as a victory for abortion rights activists.

                            The proposed amendment was the first time anywhere in the U.S. that voters cast ballots on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June.

                            A ballot question, known as the “Value Them Both Amendment,” asked voters to decide whether the state’s Constitution should continue to protect abortion rights. The proposed amendment to the state Constitution would have removed language that guarantees reproductive rights and asked voters if they prefer to put the issue of abortion in the hands of the state’s Republican-controlled legislature — an outcome that abortion advocates said was all but certain to result in the elimination or curtailment of those rights.

                            A “yes” vote on the measure would remove from the state Constitution the right to an abortion and hand the issue back to the state legislature. A “no” vote on the measure would make no changes, keeping abortion rights enshrined in the state Constitution.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:57 last edited by
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                              As it should be.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 13:47 last edited by
                                #266

                                Pretty much.

                                I think the abortion issue is going to cool off quite a bit by November.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 13:49 last edited by
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                                  The language in the Kansas amendment was a bit confusing IMO, so I could see folks voting no when they meant yes, and vice versa. Still, yes this is exactly what Dobbs was about.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 13:55 last edited by
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                                    Despite all the screeching, this court may in coming years be seen to have saved the Constitution from an overbearing federal government.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 15:03 last edited by
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                                      And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        3 Aug 2022, 15:03

                                        And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 15:37 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:

                                        And that's why you vote for Trump. At the end of the day, Presidents are ephemeral, Congress does not do its job and the SCOTUS is darn near forever.

                                        Trump's legacy with the court is very much solidified, and appreciated by conservatives like me. It actually helps offset the many other things he did that I thought significantly degraded the expectations of the office. I don't mean that as a subtle jab, just in terms of how his legacy is balanced in my head.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 15:39 last edited by
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                                          The thing is any GOP President is going to select of the FedSoc list. You could have a sane candidate and still get the court picks.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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