Roe & Casey overturned.
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@Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
This was an unfortunate divergence into the theory that the whole story was made up, but the original criticisms having to do with abortions being legal in all states for this case, still stands.
Exactly. Even the so called "fetal heartbeat" bill is full of controversy. When a "heartbeat" can be discerned is up to debate and interpretation.
Oh, and at 6 weeks, it's not a fetus, it's an embryo, and there is no heart. There is only a tube that begins to contract.
Science....
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I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…
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@LuFins-Dad said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
I would also point out that it’s also still poor journalism to publish the story without any fact checking or sourcing…
Of for the POTUS to use a single source, unvetted story from the bully pulpit for political gain.
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@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
HIPAA violation...
https://rumble.com/v1c4vu7-aishah-hasnie-updates-on-10-year-old-abortion-story.html
*Protected Health Information (PHI):
Any personally identifiable demographic information that can be used to identify a patient. HIPAA sets national standards for the privacy and security of PHI. HIPAA identifies 18 markers of PHI, which include:
Name
Address (including subdivisions smaller than state such as street address, city, county, or zip code)
Any dates (except years) that are directly related to an individual, including birthday, date of admission or discharge, date of death, or the exact age of individuals older than 89
Telephone number
Fax number
Email address
Social Security number
Medical record number
Health plan beneficiary number
Account number
Certificate/license number
Vehicle identifiers, serial numbers, or license plate numbers
Device identifiers or serial numbers
Web URLs
IP address
Biometric identifiers such as fingerprints or voice prints
Full-face photos
Any other unique identifying numbers, characteristics, or codes*You guys know more about this than I do, but if the age was the only thing told, then maybe no violation.
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I would have said "No", but apparently this wasn't her patient?
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@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Shouldn't be that way.
With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.
Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.
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@NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Shouldn't be that way.
With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.
Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.
Hard to do, when the courts won't admit what evidence that was gathered.
Did you enjoy 2000 Mules?
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@Horace said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
So, the rapist is an illegal immigrant, according to the 11th paragraph of a CNN story I read about the arrest.
Well...That means The Resident will quit talking about this and move on.
Run away! Run away!
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https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxn5mn/ohio-rape-abortion-child-americans-united-for-life
Catherine Glenn Foster, the head of Americans United for Life, had this to say in Congress:
“If a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape and it was threatening her life, then that’s not an abortion,”
The nonsensical denial is really strong in this one.
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@NobodySock said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
@Jolly said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
Shouldn't be that way.
With the way the internet and media now work, stories are not vetted and travel through the public at the speed of light. To make a mistake is bad, but to intentionally plant a false story should be criminal.
Kinda like saying an election was stolen even though you have zero evidence.
You mean like Hillary claimed? Twice? Like Al Gore claimed?
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The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.
An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
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Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.
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@Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.
An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
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Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.
Well, that is just a reading comprehension fail on your part. There is no threat to prosecute for performing the abortion.
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@Axtremus said in Roe & Casey overturned.:
The doctor at the center of a firestorm over abortion rights sent a cease and desist letter to Indiana Attorney General Todd Rokita on Friday demanding that he stop “making false and misleading statements” about her to the press.
An attorney for Caitlin Bernard — the OB-GYN who performed an abortion on a 10-year-old rape survivor from Ohio whose case grabbed national attention this week — told Rokita that his public threat to criminally prosecute her and his suggestion that she did not report the abortion to the proper state authorities “forms the basis of an actionable defamation claim.”
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Argue all you want that "abortion by a 10 year old rape victim" is or should be legal in all states. The reality is already there are elected Republican leaders very much reluctant to acknowledge the legality of letting a 10 year old rape victim get an abortion, and even after one is performed, already there is a state Attorney General publicly threatening to criminally prosecute a doctor for performing the abortion for a 10 year old rape victim that you all like to claim is or should be legal in all states.
Uh, no.
Get your facts straight and get back to us.
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This is what democracy looks like, as Dobbs intended.
Kansas voters on Tuesday overwhelmingly struck down a proposed constitutional amendment that would remove language enshrining reproductive rights in their state, in a move widely seen as a victory for abortion rights activists.
The proposed amendment was the first time anywhere in the U.S. that voters cast ballots on abortion since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June.
A ballot question, known as the “Value Them Both Amendment,” asked voters to decide whether the state’s Constitution should continue to protect abortion rights. The proposed amendment to the state Constitution would have removed language that guarantees reproductive rights and asked voters if they prefer to put the issue of abortion in the hands of the state’s Republican-controlled legislature — an outcome that abortion advocates said was all but certain to result in the elimination or curtailment of those rights.
A “yes” vote on the measure would remove from the state Constitution the right to an abortion and hand the issue back to the state legislature. A “no” vote on the measure would make no changes, keeping abortion rights enshrined in the state Constitution.