The Ukraine war thread
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@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:
Interesting. Why didn't it happen in 2014?
Good question. I guess Angela Merkel and Barak Obama preferred not to escalate matters much beyond indignation and a strongly worded letter or two. Oh yes, and a few weak to moderate sanctions which only strengthened the Russian agri-food sector and energy industries. For its part, NATO members began training Ukrainian soldiers in NATO warfare techniques as the first steps towards eventual integration into the alliance.
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Der Spiegel: Zwei Schurken, ein Ziel
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/13/world/asia/north-korea-soldiers-russia-ukraine.html
North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, welcomed home specialized soldiers this week after a deployment in Russia’s war against Ukraine, honoring nine killed in action with his country’s highest medal, state media reported on Saturday.
The event was North Korea’s first public acknowledgment that it had sent specialized troops, combat engineers tasked with mine-clearing operations, to aid Russia in the war.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Suicide by ejector seat:
The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.
Video:
I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.
"You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Suicide by ejector seat:
The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.
Video:
I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.
@Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
Suicide by ejector seat:
The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.
Video:
I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.
We both will. In the past 10 minutes I have been informed by an impeccable source that while the incident report is true, the video posted on X is bogus. Clearly sloppy on my part not to have taken the effort to do a bit more homework on the video.
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An acquaintance of mine in Kyiv just sent me the following status update via FB Messenger:
I have power. I'm fully charged on all my devices and I'm as charged as I can be to deal with the other realities of life.
Some time ago I wrote that Putin calculates one more massive missile strike to kill civilians and we'll tap out. And he was wrong. He's calculated that he can freeze us out this winter and we'll capitulate. He's wrong.
It's hard to be in Kyiv now but the temperatures will warm and the ice will melt and we will still not have fucking capitulated.
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Unfortunately, more of the same. :(. Though there is the possibility of more talks on Feb 1.
Ukraine and Russia ended a second day of US-brokered talks in Abu Dhabi on Jan 24 without a deal but with more talks expected next weekend, even as overnight Russian airstrikes knocked out power for over a million Ukrainians amid subzero winter cold.
Statements after the conclusion of the talks did not indicate that any agreements had been reached, but Moscow and Kyiv both said they were open to further dialogue.
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Not sure what to think of this. Sounds very complicated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-signs-off-on-ukraine-security-guarantee/ar-AA1UZKFy
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Not sure what to think of this. Sounds very complicated.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-signs-off-on-ukraine-security-guarantee/ar-AA1UZKFy
This
A less reported aspect to security deals is that Russia is also seeking a security deal for itself, according to bne IntelliNews sources in Moscow. Putin faces a similar problem. Russian President Vladimir Putin is keen to avoid that further down the line a new Ukrainian president ties up with a new US administration that jointly decides to retake the five regions occupied and annexed by Moscow in the current war by military force. As a result, the Kremlin has been demanding not just the de facto recognition of Russia’s sovereignty over the regions, but de jura recognition as well. No details on this point have been released to the public so far..
A short word. No.
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De jure recognition would tell the world that launching a war of aggression in order to seize your neighbour’s sovereign territory is legitimate and acceptable. No US President recognized the Soviet annexation of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia following WWII. Likewise, the civilized world of today should not recognize the Russian occupation and annexation of any sovereign territory of Ukraine as it was prior to 2014.
