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The Ukraine war thread

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by Renauda
    #3050

    I do. Putin got away with it in 2014 and again in 2022. He has to know beyond any doubt that if and when there is a next time, Western troops are coming to Ukraine’s aid. That does not necessarily include the US but it does not preclude it either.

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Offline
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      wrote last edited by
      #3051

      Interesting. Why didn't it happen in 2014?

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • MikM Offline
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        #3052

        More on that. Good piece.

        https://www.fpri.org/article/2014/03/ukraine-and-the-misunderstood-budapest-memorandum/

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • MikM Mik

          Interesting. Why didn't it happen in 2014?

          RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote last edited by Renauda
          #3053

          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Interesting. Why didn't it happen in 2014?

          Good question. I guess Angela Merkel and Barak Obama preferred not to escalate matters much beyond indignation and a strongly worded letter or two. Oh yes, and a few weak to moderate sanctions which only strengthened the Russian agri-food sector and energy industries. For its part, NATO members began training Ukrainian soldiers in NATO warfare techniques as the first steps towards eventual integration into the alliance.

          Elbows up!

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          • MikM Offline
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            wrote last edited by
            #3054

            Which should have happened long ago.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • MikM Offline
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              #3055

              In Russia car parks you.

              https://www.the-independent.com/tech/porsche-russia-satellite-disabled-vts-b2880139.html?fbclid=IwdGRleAOnHmtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe1UZtrfGy0Dqdb3dy6aj3phF7R2MhDgPUWTxLPm7hOJDTsTZeKnaWcb5uxqI_aem_uzPgRRtT879-UDhM-Ho5hw

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • W Do not disturb
                W Do not disturb
                Wim
                wrote last edited by
                #3056

                Der Spiegel: Zwei Schurken, ein Ziel

                https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/wie-donald-trump-die-europaeer-an-wladimir-putin-verraet-a-2fb67045-1ab6-4caf-9467-fceeec9351c6

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  #3057

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/13/world/asia/north-korea-soldiers-russia-ukraine.html

                  North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, welcomed home specialized soldiers this week after a deployment in Russia’s war against Ukraine, honoring nine killed in action with his country’s highest medal, state media reported on Saturday.

                  The event was North Korea’s first public acknowledgment that it had sent specialized troops, combat engineers tasked with mine-clearing operations, to aid Russia in the war.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
                    wrote last edited by Renauda
                    #3058

                    Suicide by ejector seat:

                    The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                    Video:

                    Elbows up!

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                    • W Do not disturb
                      W Do not disturb
                      Wim
                      wrote last edited by
                      #3059

                      https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        Suicide by ejector seat:

                        The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                        https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                        Video:

                        MikM Offline
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #3060

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Suicide by ejector seat:

                        The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                        https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                        Video:

                        I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • W Wim

                          https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #3061

                          @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

                          Cool!

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                          • MikM Mik

                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Suicide by ejector seat:

                            The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                            https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                            Video:

                            I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

                            RenaudaR Offline
                            RenaudaR Offline
                            Renauda
                            wrote last edited by Renauda
                            #3062

                            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Suicide by ejector seat:

                            The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                            https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                            Video:

                            I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

                            We both will. In the past 10 minutes I have been informed by an impeccable source that while the incident report is true, the video posted on X is bogus. Clearly sloppy on my part not to have taken the effort to do a bit more homework on the video.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote last edited by
                              #3063

                              Yeah, but still fun to watch and imagine.

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Yeah, but still fun to watch and imagine.

                                RenaudaR Offline
                                RenaudaR Offline
                                Renauda
                                wrote last edited by
                                #3064

                                @Mik

                                Well if that’s the case….

                                Link to video

                                Elbows up!

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