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  • W Offline
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    Wim
    wrote on last edited by
    #3059

    https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      Suicide by ejector seat:

      The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

      https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

      Video:

      MikM Away
      MikM Away
      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #3060

      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Suicide by ejector seat:

      The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

      https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

      Video:

      I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • W Wim

        https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

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        89th
        wrote on last edited by
        #3061

        @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

        https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

        Cool!

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        • MikM Mik

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Suicide by ejector seat:

          The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

          https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

          Video:

          I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #3062

          @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Suicide by ejector seat:

          The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

          https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

          Video:

          I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

          We both will. In the past 10 minutes I have been informed by an impeccable source that while the incident report is true, the video posted on X is bogus. Clearly sloppy on my part not to have taken the effort to do a bit more homework on the video.

          Elbows up!

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
            wrote on last edited by
            #3063

            Yeah, but still fun to watch and imagine.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • MikM Mik

              Yeah, but still fun to watch and imagine.

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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #3064

              @Mik

              Well if that’s the case….

              Link to video

              Elbows up!

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              😁
              • W Offline
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                Wim
                wrote on last edited by
                #3065

                Interesting read:

                https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/world/europe/russia-putin-aide-dmitri-kozak-ukraine-war.html

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #3066

                  An acquaintance of mine in Kyiv just sent me the following status update via FB Messenger:

                  I have power. I'm fully charged on all my devices and I'm as charged as I can be to deal with the other realities of life.

                  Some time ago I wrote that Putin calculates one more massive missile strike to kill civilians and we'll tap out. And he was wrong. He's calculated that he can freeze us out this winter and we'll capitulate. He's wrong.

                  It's hard to be in Kyiv now but the temperatures will warm and the ice will melt and we will still not have fucking capitulated.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #3067

                    Unfortunately, more of the same. :(. Though there is the possibility of more talks on Feb 1.

                    Ukraine and Russia ended a second day of US-brokered talks in Abu Dhabi on Jan 24 without a deal but with more talks expected next weekend, even as overnight Russian airstrikes knocked out power for over a million Ukrainians amid subzero winter cold.

                    Statements after the conclusion of the talks did not indicate that any agreements had been reached, but Moscow and Kyiv both said they were open to further dialogue.

                    https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/us-brokered-peace-talks-break-off-without-deal-after-overnight-russian-bombardment-of-ukraine

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #3068

                      Not sure what to think of this. Sounds very complicated.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-signs-off-on-ukraine-security-guarantee/ar-AA1UZKFy

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Not sure what to think of this. Sounds very complicated.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-signs-off-on-ukraine-security-guarantee/ar-AA1UZKFy

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #3069

                        @Mik

                        This

                        A less reported aspect to security deals is that Russia is also seeking a security deal for itself, according to bne IntelliNews sources in Moscow. Putin faces a similar problem. Russian President Vladimir Putin is keen to avoid that further down the line a new Ukrainian president ties up with a new US administration that jointly decides to retake the five regions occupied and annexed by Moscow in the current war by military force. As a result, the Kremlin has been demanding not just the de facto recognition of Russia’s sovereignty over the regions, but de jura recognition as well. No details on this point have been released to the public so far..

                        A short word. No.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #3070

                          Nyet.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #3071

                            De jure recognition would tell the world that launching a war of aggression in order to seize your neighbour’s sovereign territory is legitimate and acceptable. No US President recognized the Soviet annexation of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia following WWII. Likewise, the civilized world of today should not recognize the Russian occupation and annexation of any sovereign territory of Ukraine as it was prior to 2014.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #3072

                              Wholly agree.

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              • RenaudaR Offline
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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #3073

                                Said the spider to the fly:

                                President Volodymyr Zelensky should travel to Moscow if he wants to hold direct talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said on Jan. 28.

                                Really? That ploy is right out of the Josef Stalin playbook.

                                The comment follows remarks by Ukraine's Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha, who said Zelensky is ready to meet Putin to resolve two core issues in the peace process: territorial questions and the future of the Russian-occupied Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.

                                Kremlin is not serious about resolving anything of the sort.

                                "We have never refused and do not refuse this kind of contact," Ushakov said, adding that Moscow is prepared to ensure Zelensky's security and working conditions if he comes to Russia.

                                Yes, you can be certain there’s a room reserved for him in the basement of the Lubyanka with a view all the way to Siberia. But only after he has been paraded through the streets of Moscow caged and in chains.

                                https://kyivindependent.com/russia-says-its-ready-for-zelensky-putin-meeting/

                                Elbows up!

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                                • MikM Away
                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #3074

                                  That will never happen and then Putin will claim Zelensky is not serious.

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #3075

                                    I guess the Kremlin felt the need to say something in response to Sybiha’s statement. The fact that it was wholly disingenuous does not even register in their amoral minds.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                      #3076

                                      Witkoff and Kushner are out!

                                      US envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner will not participate in the next round of negotiations aimed at ending the war in Ukraine, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Wednesday.

                                      “[Russia and Ukraine] are going to follow up talks again this week. In that regard, bilateral. There might be a US presence, but it won’t be Steve and Jared,” Rubio said.

                                      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/68977

                                      And the there’s this…you guessed it, it’s all about Steve “Dim Philby” Witkoff:

                                      Trump's top envoy negotiating Ukraine's fate displays 'shocking' lack of knowledge about war, politics…

                                      A senior U.S. envoy involved in efforts to end Russia's full-scale war against Ukraine has displayed a lack of basic understanding of Ukraine's political system and the war itself while speaking in a closed conversation with a small group of reporters, the Kyiv Independent has learned.

                                      https://kyivindependent.com/trumps-top-envoy-displays-shocking-lack-of-knowledge-about-war-politics/

                                      I hope Rubio eviscerates the fool; his playing diplomat has done nothing but give the Kremlin a green light to escalate the war and make the US look like Putin’s Muggins.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #3077

                                        Has the clock started on the "24 hours to end the war" guarantee?

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          Has the clock started on the "24 hours to end the war" guarantee?

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #3078

                                          @taiwan_girl

                                          The spring on that clock was wound then immediately seized up last May when Trump’s Special Dummkopf arrived at the Kremlin without a US vetted interpreter to meet with Putin.

                                          Elbows up!

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