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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #3052

    More on that. Good piece.

    https://www.fpri.org/article/2014/03/ukraine-and-the-misunderstood-budapest-memorandum/

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • MikM Mik

      Interesting. Why didn't it happen in 2014?

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      Renauda
      wrote on last edited by Renauda
      #3053

      @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Interesting. Why didn't it happen in 2014?

      Good question. I guess Angela Merkel and Barak Obama preferred not to escalate matters much beyond indignation and a strongly worded letter or two. Oh yes, and a few weak to moderate sanctions which only strengthened the Russian agri-food sector and energy industries. For its part, NATO members began training Ukrainian soldiers in NATO warfare techniques as the first steps towards eventual integration into the alliance.

      Elbows up!

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #3054

        Which should have happened long ago.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #3055

          In Russia car parks you.

          https://www.the-independent.com/tech/porsche-russia-satellite-disabled-vts-b2880139.html?fbclid=IwdGRleAOnHmtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe1UZtrfGy0Dqdb3dy6aj3phF7R2MhDgPUWTxLPm7hOJDTsTZeKnaWcb5uxqI_aem_uzPgRRtT879-UDhM-Ho5hw

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • W Offline
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            Wim
            wrote on last edited by
            #3056

            Der Spiegel: Zwei Schurken, ein Ziel

            https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/wie-donald-trump-die-europaeer-an-wladimir-putin-verraet-a-2fb67045-1ab6-4caf-9467-fceeec9351c6

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            • AxtremusA Offline
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              #3057

              https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/13/world/asia/north-korea-soldiers-russia-ukraine.html

              North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, welcomed home specialized soldiers this week after a deployment in Russia’s war against Ukraine, honoring nine killed in action with his country’s highest medal, state media reported on Saturday.

              The event was North Korea’s first public acknowledgment that it had sent specialized troops, combat engineers tasked with mine-clearing operations, to aid Russia in the war.

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #3058

                Suicide by ejector seat:

                The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                Video:

                Elbows up!

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                • W Offline
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                  Wim
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #3059

                  https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    Suicide by ejector seat:

                    The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                    Video:

                    MikM Offline
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                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #3060

                    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    Suicide by ejector seat:

                    The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                    Video:

                    I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • W Wim

                      https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #3061

                      @Wim said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-claims-first-underwater-drone-sea-baby-strike-on-russian-submarine-knocking-it-out-of-service/

                      Cool!

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Suicide by ejector seat:

                        The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                        https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                        Video:

                        I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

                        RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #3062

                        @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Suicide by ejector seat:

                        The Russian Aerospace Forces lost a bomber crew after the aircraft’s ejection system was activated while the bomber was inside a shelter, according to Russian reports.

                        https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russian-bomber-crew-killed-by-their-own-ejection-seats-sa-120925

                        Video:

                        I will probably go to hell for laughing so loud at this. So be it.

                        We both will. In the past 10 minutes I have been informed by an impeccable source that while the incident report is true, the video posted on X is bogus. Clearly sloppy on my part not to have taken the effort to do a bit more homework on the video.

                        Elbows up!

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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #3063

                          Yeah, but still fun to watch and imagine.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Yeah, but still fun to watch and imagine.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #3064

                            @Mik

                            Well if that’s the case….

                            Link to video

                            Elbows up!

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                            😁
                            • W Offline
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                              Wim
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #3065

                              Interesting read:

                              https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/world/europe/russia-putin-aide-dmitri-kozak-ukraine-war.html

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