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  • J Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 10 Apr 2025, 14:15 last edited by
    #2783

    I’ll take it.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Wim
      wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:12 last edited by
      #2784

      Say thank you when we rob you...

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/12/us-demands-control-from-ukraine-of-key-pipeline-carrying-russian-gas

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        Renauda
        wrote on 12 Apr 2025, 20:45 last edited by Renauda 4 Dec 2025, 20:59
        #2785

        Extortion by military or economic means appears to be a foreign policy tactic shared by the Kremlin and current White House.

        Elbows up!

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          AndyD
          wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 21:06 last edited by
          #2786

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            Wim
            wrote on 13 Apr 2025, 21:08 last edited by
            #2787

            Either shut up or...

            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/13/ukraine-civilian-deaths-sumy-attack-russia-us-talks-trump-putin-analysis

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 14 Apr 2025, 16:30 last edited by
              #2788

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 14 Apr 2025, 16:37 last edited by
                #2789

                Everybody's to blame.

                Everybody except Trump, presumably.

                I was only joking

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 14 Apr 2025, 16:48 last edited by Renauda
                  #2790

                  Par for the Trump course.

                  He does not get it. Doubtful that he ever will either. Inept.

                  Elbows up!

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                    89th
                    wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 11:39 last edited by
                    #2791

                    What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                    Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                    That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 12:46 last edited by
                      #2792

                      Lazy seems to be a defining characteristic.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 13:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #2793

                        I think "lazy" is quite a charitable interpretation of what Trump said.

                        I was only joking

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                        • 8 89th
                          15 Apr 2025, 11:39

                          What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                          Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                          That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 15 Apr 2025, 15:50 last edited by Renauda
                          #2794

                          @89th said in The Ukraine war thread:

                          What an odd comment "Biden could've stopped it. Zelenskyy could've stopped it."

                          Umm, yeah pretty sure if he coulda...he woulda.

                          That being said, the video clearly says Trump says Putin started it and I think his latter comment about "if you start a war" was a sloppy way of saying Zelenskyy essentially allowed the war to start. Which is a lazy summary of events.

                          It’s also possible (albeit remote) that Trump is beginning to realise that all along Putin has been playing him for the Muggins he really is on the world stage of diplomacy and conflict resolution.

                          As any self deifying narcissist would do, Trump is lashing out and laying blame on everyone else other than himself for what amounts to his own ineptitude.

                          So yeah, sloppy thinking is at play here. Big time sloppy thinking.

                          Elbows up!

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                            89th
                            wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 12:55 last edited by
                            #2795

                            Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                            I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                            Link to video

                            Link to video

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                              18 Apr 2025, 12:55

                              Wait, so Rubio said Trump's been working on this for 87 days (7.9 scaramuccis).

                              I thought Trump said he'd end it in 1 day (0.09 scaramuccis).

                              Link to video

                              Link to video

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 15:26 last edited by
                              #2796

                              @89th Shhhh! You are exposing the truth.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 20:37 last edited by
                                #2797

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  Tom-K
                                  wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 22:08 last edited by
                                  #2798

                                  " ⁦@marcorubio is currently defining what it means to abandon absolutely every principle one used to hold dear."

                                  I guess that means Rubio is Presidential timber.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 23:47 last edited by Renauda
                                    #2799

                                    The ineptitude of Trump and Witkoff:

                                    https://timothyash.substack.com/p/a-fools-guide-to-putin-and-ukraine

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Wim
                                      wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 21:32 last edited by
                                      #2800

                                      Divide et impera:

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/22/ukraine-russia-rubio-london-crimea-peace-deal/

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 22:22 last edited by
                                        #2801

                                        Posted without comment other than let’s see where this takes things…..

                                        Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered to end the war in Ukraine along the current front lines as part of peace talks with the United States, the Financial Times reported Wednesday, citing multiple sources familiar with the negotiations.

                                        During a meeting in St. Petersburg earlier this month, Putin reportedly told Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff that Moscow could drop its claims to parts of four Ukrainian regions still controlled by Kyiv.

                                        Washington has floated its own proposals for ending the conflict, including recognizing Russia’s 2014 annexation of Crimea and acknowledging its de facto control over occupied areas in Ukraine’s east and south, the FT reported.

                                        https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/04/22/putin-proposes-ending-invasion-of-ukraine-along-current-front-lines-ft-a88834

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Tom-K
                                          wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 22:27 last edited by Tom-K
                                          #2802

                                          I'm OK with that. Not honorable or righteous or perfect. But a lot of less deaths and some reasonable peace all around. And it may give DJT a Novel Peace Prize that he well deserves. 🙄

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