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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #262

    entire societies can be moved by artful messaging. Why wouldn't someone observe and comment on that messaging? I mean unless they're like a fish not observing and commenting on the water.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      #263

      Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus. 😆

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-army-is-using-terminator-drones-to-scare-russians-into-retreat/ar-AAVYOCM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8feed417e5bb40a39d443a8e91fbf37e

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus. 😆

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-army-is-using-terminator-drones-to-scare-russians-into-retreat/ar-AAVYOCM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8feed417e5bb40a39d443a8e91fbf37e

        RenaudaR Offline
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        Renauda
        wrote on last edited by
        #264

        @Mik

        Psy-fi-ops.

        Elbows up!

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #265

          It would likely be more effective had they not put it in the news.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

            Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

            The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

            If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

            CopperC Online
            CopperC Online
            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #266

            @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

            Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

            The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

            If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

            Maybe you missed it

            The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

            Mr. Biden is a war hero

            Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

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            • CopperC Copper

              @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

              @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

              Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

              Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

              The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

              If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

              Maybe you missed it

              The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

              Mr. Biden is a war hero

              Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #267

              @Copper

              Sorry I missed it. I however watch unAmerican slick media. None of that pop kulture stuff like CNN or Fux.

              Might try to do better next time

              Elbows up!

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #268

                Updated:

                Screen Shot 2022-04-09 at 6.54.50 PM.png

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #269

                  Interesting thread on the support for Putin of Russian speakers outside Russia.

                  You were warned.

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #270

                    Very interesting. Makes some twisted sense of what is otherwise unconceivable to us.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #271

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #272

                        Thanks @jon-nyc . Fascinating mindset.

                        Meanwhile, if you're keeping score...

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
                          George KG Offline
                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #273

                          image.jpeg

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #274

                            Key Russian blunder - they did not secure Antonov Airport outside Kyiv.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-lost-the-battle-for-kyiv-with-its-hasty-assault-on-a-ukrainian-airport/ar-AAW3z8L?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c129069f9e664ed1aea6a069e81afead

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • George KG George K

                              image.jpeg

                              AxtremusA Offline
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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #275

                              @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                              image.jpeg

                              What is the source of this “intelligence”?

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #276

                                Examine the picture and you will have your answer.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  image.jpeg

                                  What is the source of this “intelligence”?

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #277

                                  @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  What is the source of this “intelligence”?

                                  https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #278

                                    War crimes?

                                    Always part of the plan:

                                    National security adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday that the war crimes committed by Russian forces in Ukraine were part of President Vladimir Putin’s master plan for the invasion.

                                    “We, in fact, before the war began declassified intelligence and presented it,” Sullivan said on ABC’s “This Week,” “indicating that there was a plan from the highest levels of the Russian government to target civilians who oppose the invasion, to cause violence against them, to organize efforts to brutalize them in order to try to terrorize the population and subjugate it. So this is something that was planned.”

                                    Russia’s recent retreat from areas near Kyiv left behind massive evidence of atrocities, particularly in Bucha, where civilians who had been executed, many with their hands tied behind their backs, were found through the area.

                                    On top of that, Russia has targeted civilian sites throughout the war, with airstrikes on hospitals and places where refugees have congregated.

                                    “The images that we’ve seen out of Bucha and other cities have been tragic, they’ve been horrifying,” Sullivan told host Jonathan Karl. “They’ve been downright shocking, but they have not been surprising.”

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by George K
                                      #279

                                      Interesting (and long) thread on the status of Russian tanks and what the losses really mean.

                                      tl;dr version - The losses that the Russians have sustained are terrible, with no replacement of equipment or personnel readily available.

                                      Many, including a certain "evidence-based only" sources would argue that the Russian Federation is operating some 10,000 tanks so 467 is "but a scratch". Which is certainly not true. (2/n)

                                      Their mistake is that the bulk of these "10,000 tanks" are not in a status that can be operated by the Russian troops. There are just not enough units to operate them. (3/n)

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #280

                                        Well...

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          Well...

                                          RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                          #281

                                          @George-K

                                          Worth watching to see what the Pentagon or London has to report. Azov Battalion is a bit too dodgy for me to trust as a source.

                                          If true, it could be a portent of much worse sooner rather than later and leaves NATO with very little in the way options short of the very hard decision to accept Zelinsky’s invitation to intervene.

                                          Elbows up!

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