The Ukraine war thread
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:
This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.
As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.
- Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
- Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
- Those in the middle who are undecided.
I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?
From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.
And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Given enough time, another "world war" is pretty much a sure thing unless:
- We get invaded by aliens (from outer space) first
- We migrate off planet Earth first
- Another global catastrophe got the human race first (pandemic, climate change, mad science gone bad, big meteor, etc.)
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.
Elbows up!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
Nuclear bomb detonates in Paris. Americans wonder what effect this will have on the mid-terms.
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Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus.
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Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus.
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@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.
Maybe you missed it
The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point
Mr. Biden is a war hero
Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.
Maybe you missed it
The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point
Mr. Biden is a war hero
Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.
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Key Russian blunder - they did not secure Antonov Airport outside Kyiv.
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@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:
What is the source of this “intelligence”?
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War crimes?
National security adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday that the war crimes committed by Russian forces in Ukraine were part of President Vladimir Putin’s master plan for the invasion.
“We, in fact, before the war began declassified intelligence and presented it,” Sullivan said on ABC’s “This Week,” “indicating that there was a plan from the highest levels of the Russian government to target civilians who oppose the invasion, to cause violence against them, to organize efforts to brutalize them in order to try to terrorize the population and subjugate it. So this is something that was planned.”
Russia’s recent retreat from areas near Kyiv left behind massive evidence of atrocities, particularly in Bucha, where civilians who had been executed, many with their hands tied behind their backs, were found through the area.
On top of that, Russia has targeted civilian sites throughout the war, with airstrikes on hospitals and places where refugees have congregated.
“The images that we’ve seen out of Bucha and other cities have been tragic, they’ve been horrifying,” Sullivan told host Jonathan Karl. “They’ve been downright shocking, but they have not been surprising.”
