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  • CopperC Copper

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

    Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

    The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

    If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

    Maybe you missed it

    The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

    Mr. Biden is a war hero

    Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

    RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #267

    @Copper

    Sorry I missed it. I however watch unAmerican slick media. None of that pop kulture stuff like CNN or Fux.

    Might try to do better next time

    Elbows up!

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #268

      Updated:

      Screen Shot 2022-04-09 at 6.54.50 PM.png

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #269

        Interesting thread on the support for Putin of Russian speakers outside Russia.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #270

          Very interesting. Makes some twisted sense of what is otherwise unconceivable to us.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #271

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
              #272

              Thanks @jon-nyc . Fascinating mindset.

              Meanwhile, if you're keeping score...

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #273

                image.jpeg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  #274

                  Key Russian blunder - they did not secure Antonov Airport outside Kyiv.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-lost-the-battle-for-kyiv-with-its-hasty-assault-on-a-ukrainian-airport/ar-AAW3z8L?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c129069f9e664ed1aea6a069e81afead

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG George K

                    image.jpeg

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #275

                    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                    image.jpeg

                    What is the source of this “intelligence”?

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #276

                      Examine the picture and you will have your answer.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        image.jpeg

                        What is the source of this “intelligence”?

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #277

                        @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        What is the source of this “intelligence”?

                        https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #278

                          War crimes?

                          Always part of the plan:

                          National security adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday that the war crimes committed by Russian forces in Ukraine were part of President Vladimir Putin’s master plan for the invasion.

                          “We, in fact, before the war began declassified intelligence and presented it,” Sullivan said on ABC’s “This Week,” “indicating that there was a plan from the highest levels of the Russian government to target civilians who oppose the invasion, to cause violence against them, to organize efforts to brutalize them in order to try to terrorize the population and subjugate it. So this is something that was planned.”

                          Russia’s recent retreat from areas near Kyiv left behind massive evidence of atrocities, particularly in Bucha, where civilians who had been executed, many with their hands tied behind their backs, were found through the area.

                          On top of that, Russia has targeted civilian sites throughout the war, with airstrikes on hospitals and places where refugees have congregated.

                          “The images that we’ve seen out of Bucha and other cities have been tragic, they’ve been horrifying,” Sullivan told host Jonathan Karl. “They’ve been downright shocking, but they have not been surprising.”

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by George K
                            #279

                            Interesting (and long) thread on the status of Russian tanks and what the losses really mean.

                            tl;dr version - The losses that the Russians have sustained are terrible, with no replacement of equipment or personnel readily available.

                            Many, including a certain "evidence-based only" sources would argue that the Russian Federation is operating some 10,000 tanks so 467 is "but a scratch". Which is certainly not true. (2/n)

                            Their mistake is that the bulk of these "10,000 tanks" are not in a status that can be operated by the Russian troops. There are just not enough units to operate them. (3/n)

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #280

                              Well...

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                Well...

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                #281

                                @George-K

                                Worth watching to see what the Pentagon or London has to report. Azov Battalion is a bit too dodgy for me to trust as a source.

                                If true, it could be a portent of much worse sooner rather than later and leaves NATO with very little in the way options short of the very hard decision to accept Zelinsky’s invitation to intervene.

                                Elbows up!

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #282

                                  War crime:

                                  https://www.the-sun.com/news/5093174/russian-soldier-rapes-baby-ukraine-war-arrested/

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #283

                                    Well, that last one was from the Sun, so....

                                    This one is from The Daily Beast, a source of similar reliability.

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-airs-its-ultimate-revenge-plan-for-america/ar-AAW5HB1?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=034ebcc01ffb4eb69e64664ac4fca5ca

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Well, that last one was from the Sun, so....

                                      This one is from The Daily Beast, a source of similar reliability.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-airs-its-ultimate-revenge-plan-for-america/ar-AAW5HB1?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=034ebcc01ffb4eb69e64664ac4fca5ca

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #284

                                      @Mik

                                      I trust the Kremlin would interfere to undermine the US electoral process regardless of the state of US Russia relations on Election Day.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #285

                                        I suspect you are right.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • HoraceH Online
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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #286

                                          The only thing Russia needs to do to interfere is to give the appearance of interference, and wait for American corporate tribal media to run with it.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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