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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

    This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.

    As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.

    1. Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
    2. Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
    3. Those in the middle who are undecided.

    I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?

    From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.

    And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.

    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on last edited by
    #257

    @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

    This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.

    As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.

    1. Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
    2. Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
    3. Those in the middle who are undecided.

    I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?

    From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.

    And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.

    Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

    Please love yourself.

    CopperC AxtremusA 2 Replies Last reply
    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

      This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.

      As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.

      1. Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
      2. Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
      3. Those in the middle who are undecided.

      I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?

      From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.

      And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.

      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

      CopperC Offline
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #258

      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

      Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

      The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

      RenaudaR Doctor PhibesD 2 Replies Last reply
      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Ukraine war thread:

        This is insane. I don't understand what Russia hopes to gain by this behaviour.

        As @Renauda said, early in the conflict, there seem to be three groups of people in Russia.

        1. Those older than 60, who understand what's happening
        2. Those younger than 25, who buy everything hook, line and sinker.
        3. Those in the middle who are undecided.

        I wonder, now being 6 weeks into this, how groups 2 and 3 are reacting. Surely, they're seeing that the entire planet is (almost) united in the condemnation of Russia. Are the sanctions beginning to have an effect on Joe Vodka?

        From what I can tell, Putin’s domestic propaganda machine is winning over the previously undecided population. They are feeling the effects of the sanctions; exponential inflation coupled with shortages. For the elderly relying on state pensions it is feeling like the 1990’s all over again - a bag of dog kibble = one month’s pension. The population truly believes it is entirely the US and EU that has brought about the need for Russia to launch this military action to “denazify” Ukraine and confront head on, Western totalitarianism.

        And no, they do not see practically the entire planet united against them. Only those morally depraved states beholden to the US.

        Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

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        Axtremus
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        #259

        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

        Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

        Given enough time, another "world war" is pretty much a sure thing unless:

        1. We get invaded by aliens (from outer space) first
        2. We migrate off planet Earth first
        3. Another global catastrophe got the human race first (pandemic, climate change, mad science gone bad, big meteor, etc.)
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        • CopperC Copper

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

          Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

          The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

          RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #260

          @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

          Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

          Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

          The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

          If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

          Elbows up!

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          • CopperC Copper

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

            Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

            The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

            Doctor PhibesD Online
            Doctor PhibesD Online
            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #261

            @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

            Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

            Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

            The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

            Nuclear bomb detonates in Paris. Americans wonder what effect this will have on the mid-terms.

            I was only joking

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              Horace
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              #262

              entire societies can be moved by artful messaging. Why wouldn't someone observe and comment on that messaging? I mean unless they're like a fish not observing and commenting on the water.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                #263

                Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus. 😆

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-army-is-using-terminator-drones-to-scare-russians-into-retreat/ar-AAVYOCM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8feed417e5bb40a39d443a8e91fbf37e

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus. 😆

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-army-is-using-terminator-drones-to-scare-russians-into-retreat/ar-AAVYOCM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8feed417e5bb40a39d443a8e91fbf37e

                  RenaudaR Offline
                  RenaudaR Offline
                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #264

                  @Mik

                  Psy-fi-ops.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #265

                    It would likely be more effective had they not put it in the news.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                      Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                      The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                      If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

                      CopperC Offline
                      CopperC Offline
                      Copper
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #266

                      @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                      Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                      The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                      If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

                      Maybe you missed it

                      The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

                      Mr. Biden is a war hero

                      Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

                      RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                      • CopperC Copper

                        @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                        Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                        Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                        The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                        If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

                        Maybe you missed it

                        The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

                        Mr. Biden is a war hero

                        Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

                        RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                        #267

                        @Copper

                        Sorry I missed it. I however watch unAmerican slick media. None of that pop kulture stuff like CNN or Fux.

                        Might try to do better next time

                        Elbows up!

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #268

                          Updated:

                          Screen Shot 2022-04-09 at 6.54.50 PM.png

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #269

                            Interesting thread on the support for Putin of Russian speakers outside Russia.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #270

                              Very interesting. Makes some twisted sense of what is otherwise unconceivable to us.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #271

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #272

                                  Thanks @jon-nyc . Fascinating mindset.

                                  Meanwhile, if you're keeping score...

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #273

                                    image.jpeg

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • MikM Away
                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #274

                                      Key Russian blunder - they did not secure Antonov Airport outside Kyiv.

                                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-lost-the-battle-for-kyiv-with-its-hasty-assault-on-a-ukrainian-airport/ar-AAW3z8L?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c129069f9e664ed1aea6a069e81afead

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • George KG George K

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                        image.jpeg

                                        What is the source of this “intelligence”?

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                                        • MikM Away
                                          MikM Away
                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #276

                                          Examine the picture and you will have your answer.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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