The Ukraine war thread
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wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 20:56 last edited by
entire societies can be moved by artful messaging. Why wouldn't someone observe and comment on that messaging? I mean unless they're like a fish not observing and commenting on the water.
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wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 21:03 last edited by
Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus.
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Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus.
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wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 22:56 last edited by
It would likely be more effective had they not put it in the news.
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@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.
wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 23:44 last edited by@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.
Maybe you missed it
The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point
Mr. Biden is a war hero
Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.
Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.
The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.
If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.
Maybe you missed it
The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point
Mr. Biden is a war hero
Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.
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wrote on 9 Apr 2022, 23:55 last edited by
Updated:
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 09:50 last edited by
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 10:56 last edited by
Very interesting. Makes some twisted sense of what is otherwise unconceivable to us.
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 11:07 last edited by
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:19 last edited by
Key Russian blunder - they did not secure Antonov Airport outside Kyiv.
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:40 last edited by
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:42 last edited by
Examine the picture and you will have your answer.
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:58 last edited by
@Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:
What is the source of this “intelligence”?
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wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 17:30 last edited by
War crimes?
National security adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday that the war crimes committed by Russian forces in Ukraine were part of President Vladimir Putin’s master plan for the invasion.
“We, in fact, before the war began declassified intelligence and presented it,” Sullivan said on ABC’s “This Week,” “indicating that there was a plan from the highest levels of the Russian government to target civilians who oppose the invasion, to cause violence against them, to organize efforts to brutalize them in order to try to terrorize the population and subjugate it. So this is something that was planned.”
Russia’s recent retreat from areas near Kyiv left behind massive evidence of atrocities, particularly in Bucha, where civilians who had been executed, many with their hands tied behind their backs, were found through the area.
On top of that, Russia has targeted civilian sites throughout the war, with airstrikes on hospitals and places where refugees have congregated.
“The images that we’ve seen out of Bucha and other cities have been tragic, they’ve been horrifying,” Sullivan told host Jonathan Karl. “They’ve been downright shocking, but they have not been surprising.”
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 13:32 last edited by George K 4 Nov 2022, 13:32
Interesting (and long) thread on the status of Russian tanks and what the losses really mean.
tl;dr version - The losses that the Russians have sustained are terrible, with no replacement of equipment or personnel readily available.
Many, including a certain "evidence-based only" sources would argue that the Russian Federation is operating some 10,000 tanks so 467 is "but a scratch". Which is certainly not true. (2/n)
Their mistake is that the bulk of these "10,000 tanks" are not in a status that can be operated by the Russian troops. There are just not enough units to operate them. (3/n)
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wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 21:21 last edited by Renauda 4 Nov 2022, 21:28
Worth watching to see what the Pentagon or London has to report. Azov Battalion is a bit too dodgy for me to trust as a source.
If true, it could be a portent of much worse sooner rather than later and leaves NATO with very little in the way options short of the very hard decision to accept Zelinsky’s invitation to intervene.