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  • C Copper
    8 Apr 2022, 18:32

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

    Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

    The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 20:13 last edited by
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    @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

    Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

    Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

    The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

    If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

    Elbows up!

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    • C Copper
      8 Apr 2022, 18:32

      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

      Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

      The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 20:49 last edited by
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      @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

      Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

      Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

      The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

      Nuclear bomb detonates in Paris. Americans wonder what effect this will have on the mid-terms.

      I was only joking

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        Horace
        wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 20:56 last edited by
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        entire societies can be moved by artful messaging. Why wouldn't someone observe and comment on that messaging? I mean unless they're like a fish not observing and commenting on the water.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Mik
          wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 21:03 last edited by
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          Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus. 😆

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-army-is-using-terminator-drones-to-scare-russians-into-retreat/ar-AAVYOCM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8feed417e5bb40a39d443a8e91fbf37e

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • M Mik
            8 Apr 2022, 21:03

            Ukraine is now sending Terminators after the Rus. 😆

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-army-is-using-terminator-drones-to-scare-russians-into-retreat/ar-AAVYOCM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8feed417e5bb40a39d443a8e91fbf37e

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            Renauda
            wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 22:55 last edited by
            #264

            @Mik

            Psy-fi-ops.

            Elbows up!

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              Mik
              wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 22:56 last edited by
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              It would likely be more effective had they not put it in the news.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • R Renauda
                8 Apr 2022, 20:13

                @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

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                Copper
                wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 23:44 last edited by
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                @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

                Maybe you missed it

                The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

                Mr. Biden is a war hero

                Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

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                • C Copper
                  8 Apr 2022, 23:44

                  @Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  @Copper said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:

                  Sounds like ww3 is pretty inevitable, then.

                  Yes, that was the shift in the conversation this week.

                  The democrats must keep the war option on the front page until after the election.

                  If that’s your story and it makes you feel better about then stick with it. It’s still entirely Putin’s war and his doing until such time he is no longer in the Kremlin.

                  Maybe you missed it

                  The democrats are now using this war as their #1 talking point

                  Mr. Biden is a war hero

                  Mr. Putin is a bad guy and Mr. Biden is protecting the world. Most of the guys pushing this story couldn't pick Mr. Putin out of a lineup.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 8 Apr 2022, 23:49 last edited by Renauda 4 Sept 2022, 00:29
                  #267

                  @Copper

                  Sorry I missed it. I however watch unAmerican slick media. None of that pop kulture stuff like CNN or Fux.

                  Might try to do better next time

                  Elbows up!

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                    George K
                    wrote on 9 Apr 2022, 23:55 last edited by
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                    Updated:

                    Screen Shot 2022-04-09 at 6.54.50 PM.png

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 09:50 last edited by
                      #269

                      Interesting thread on the support for Putin of Russian speakers outside Russia.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 10:56 last edited by
                        #270

                        Very interesting. Makes some twisted sense of what is otherwise unconceivable to us.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          George K
                          wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 11:07 last edited by
                          #271

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 11:11 last edited by
                            #272

                            Thanks @jon-nyc . Fascinating mindset.

                            Meanwhile, if you're keeping score...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 11:12 last edited by
                              #273

                              image.jpeg

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:19 last edited by
                                #274

                                Key Russian blunder - they did not secure Antonov Airport outside Kyiv.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-lost-the-battle-for-kyiv-with-its-hasty-assault-on-a-ukrainian-airport/ar-AAW3z8L?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c129069f9e664ed1aea6a069e81afead

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • G George K
                                  10 Apr 2022, 11:12

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:40 last edited by
                                  #275

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  image.jpeg

                                  What is the source of this “intelligence”?

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:42 last edited by
                                    #276

                                    Examine the picture and you will have your answer.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • A Axtremus
                                      10 Apr 2022, 12:40

                                      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      image.jpeg

                                      What is the source of this “intelligence”?

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 12:58 last edited by
                                      #277

                                      @Axtremus said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                      What is the source of this “intelligence”?

                                      https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 10 Apr 2022, 17:30 last edited by
                                        #278

                                        War crimes?

                                        Always part of the plan:

                                        National security adviser Jake Sullivan said Sunday that the war crimes committed by Russian forces in Ukraine were part of President Vladimir Putin’s master plan for the invasion.

                                        “We, in fact, before the war began declassified intelligence and presented it,” Sullivan said on ABC’s “This Week,” “indicating that there was a plan from the highest levels of the Russian government to target civilians who oppose the invasion, to cause violence against them, to organize efforts to brutalize them in order to try to terrorize the population and subjugate it. So this is something that was planned.”

                                        Russia’s recent retreat from areas near Kyiv left behind massive evidence of atrocities, particularly in Bucha, where civilians who had been executed, many with their hands tied behind their backs, were found through the area.

                                        On top of that, Russia has targeted civilian sites throughout the war, with airstrikes on hospitals and places where refugees have congregated.

                                        “The images that we’ve seen out of Bucha and other cities have been tragic, they’ve been horrifying,” Sullivan told host Jonathan Karl. “They’ve been downright shocking, but they have not been surprising.”

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 11 Apr 2022, 13:32 last edited by George K 4 Nov 2022, 13:32
                                          #279

                                          Interesting (and long) thread on the status of Russian tanks and what the losses really mean.

                                          tl;dr version - The losses that the Russians have sustained are terrible, with no replacement of equipment or personnel readily available.

                                          Many, including a certain "evidence-based only" sources would argue that the Russian Federation is operating some 10,000 tanks so 467 is "but a scratch". Which is certainly not true. (2/n)

                                          Their mistake is that the bulk of these "10,000 tanks" are not in a status that can be operated by the Russian troops. There are just not enough units to operate them. (3/n)

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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