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    Klaus
    wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 22:47 last edited by
    #13

    Second derivatives going down?

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 22:50 last edited by
      #14

      Yes, for sure. If bumpy along the way.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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      • J jon-nyc
        12 Apr 2020, 22:38

        @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

        159,184 16% increase.   Deaths 2953 up 22%.
        184,183 16% increase.   Deaths 3721 up 26%
        209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
        238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
        331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
        364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
        386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
        423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
        454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.

        Again three days since I've updated this so I'm computing daily average gains.

        550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 21:58 last edited by
        #15

        @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

        209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
        238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
        331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
        364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
        386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
        423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
        454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
        550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.

        577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

        J 1 Reply Last reply 15 Apr 2020, 21:52
        • J jon-nyc
          13 Apr 2020, 21:58

          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

          209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
          238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
          331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
          364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
          386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
          423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.

          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 15 Apr 2020, 21:52 last edited by
          #16

          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

          209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
          238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
          331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
          364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
          386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
          423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%

          2 days since update.

          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

          J 1 Reply Last reply 16 Apr 2020, 21:59
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 02:24 last edited by
            #17

            Right, here’s what scares me, a good long stretch at 5% increases.

            The Brad

            A 1 Reply Last reply 16 Apr 2020, 15:58
            • L LuFins Dad
              16 Apr 2020, 02:24

              Right, here’s what scares me, a good long stretch at 5% increases.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 15:58 last edited by
              #18

              @LuFins-Dad said in US has a shitload of cases:

              Right, here’s what scares me, a good long stretch at 5% increases.

              Exactly. We haven't hit <1.0 yet.

              Please love yourself.

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                89th
                wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 17:27 last edited by
                #19

                Is there a good place to find that growth factor? I know (think) we are getting close to <1.0

                A 1 Reply Last reply 16 Apr 2020, 22:03
                • J jon-nyc
                  15 Apr 2020, 21:52

                  @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                  209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
                  238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
                  331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                  364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                  386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                  423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                  454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                  550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                  577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%

                  2 days since update.

                  632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 21:59 last edited by
                  #20

                  @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                  209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
                  238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
                  331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                  364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                  386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                  423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                  454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                  550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                  577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                  632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.

                  658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

                  J 1 Reply Last reply 17 Apr 2020, 22:02
                  • 8 89th
                    16 Apr 2020, 17:27

                    Is there a good place to find that growth factor? I know (think) we are getting close to <1.0

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                    Aqua Letifer
                    wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 22:03 last edited by
                    #21

                    @89th said in US has a shitload of cases:

                    Is there a good place to find that growth factor? I know (think) we are getting close to <1.0

                    We are but like jon, I don't think we're ever going to get there.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 22:12 last edited by
                      #22

                      I would love for the Tibco estimates to be true.

                      I keep meaning to look into the calculations with more detail.

                      The reason I'm skeptical is the study from Wuhan and the study form Imperial College re Europe. Those were deep dives (which I've yet to fully dive into myself) into estimating R0 in countries that are ahead of us and/or did a stiricter lockdown. And they we not likely there.

                      I worry the tibco calculations are less rigorous, something arithmetically generated with each new day's data. But I don't know enough yet.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 22:14 last edited by
                        #23

                        But to answer your question 89, look here and scroll down. The site is pretty nonfunctional on mobile devices.

                        https://demo.spotfire.cloud.tibco.com/spotfire/wp/analysis?file=/Public/COVID19 Insights&waid=P2gtdoUCWEGNNI5H79yua-1606130a13Atwl&wavid=0&options=3-0

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          89th
                          wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 01:14 last edited by
                          #24

                          Great site. Got better as I dug into each section, thanks!

                          @Aqua-Letifer What do you mean we're ever going to get there. I'd imagine very soon (in the next 2-3 weeks) we'll have fewer cases "today" than there were "yesterday" on a consistent basis.

                          A 1 Reply Last reply 17 Apr 2020, 01:19
                          • 8 89th
                            17 Apr 2020, 01:14

                            Great site. Got better as I dug into each section, thanks!

                            @Aqua-Letifer What do you mean we're ever going to get there. I'd imagine very soon (in the next 2-3 weeks) we'll have fewer cases "today" than there were "yesterday" on a consistent basis.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 01:19 last edited by
                            #25

                            @89th I think slightly more people will continue to get infected per day than we have recoveries per day. Would be great to be wrong about that.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 01:35 last edited by
                              #26

                              I see, sorry I haven't been following the stats as closely. I was referring to the growth factor of "new cases today < new cases yesterday", irregardless (kidding, regardless) of recoveries.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                16 Apr 2020, 21:59

                                @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
                                238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
                                331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                                364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                                386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.

                                658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 17 Apr 2020, 22:02 last edited by
                                #27

                                @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
                                238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
                                331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                                364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                                386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%

                                692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase. I'm thinking yesterday's number was wrong???

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

                                J 1 Reply Last reply 18 Apr 2020, 22:28
                                • J jon-nyc
                                  17 Apr 2020, 22:02

                                  @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                  209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
                                  238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
                                  331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                                  364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                                  386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                  423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                  454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                  550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                  577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                  632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                  658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%

                                  692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase. I'm thinking yesterday's number was wrong???

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 22:28 last edited by
                                  #28

                                  @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                  331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                                  364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                                  386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                  423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                  454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                  550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                  577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                  632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                  658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                  692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.

                                  726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%

                                  At what point does a flat % increase go from being mildly encouraging to mildly concerning?

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

                                  J 1 Reply Last reply 19 Apr 2020, 22:17
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 18 Apr 2020, 23:37 last edited by
                                    #29

                                    I’m not terribly surprised. I think my community is better than most, and I still am surprised at how cavalier some people are.

                                    I commented to Aqua the other day that my biggest concern was a long drawn out stretch at 5%.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      18 Apr 2020, 22:28

                                      @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                      331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                                      364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                                      386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                      423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                      454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                      550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                      577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                      632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                      658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                      692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.

                                      726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%

                                      At what point does a flat % increase go from being mildly encouraging to mildly concerning?

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:17 last edited by
                                      #30

                                      @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                      364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                                      386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                      423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                      454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                      550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                      577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                      632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                      658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                      692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                      726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%

                                      755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

                                      J 1 Reply Last reply 21 Apr 2020, 22:28
                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        19 Apr 2020, 22:17

                                        @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                        364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                                        386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                        423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                        454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                        550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                        577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                        632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                        658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                        692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                        726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%

                                        755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 21 Apr 2020, 22:28 last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #31

                                        @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                        386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                        423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                        454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                        550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                        577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                        632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                        658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                        692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                        726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
                                        755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%

                                        820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

                                        J 1 Reply Last reply 22 Apr 2020, 22:28
                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          21 Apr 2020, 22:28

                                          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                          386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                          423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                          658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                          692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                          726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
                                          755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%

                                          820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 22 Apr 2020, 22:28 last edited by
                                          #32

                                          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                          658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                          692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                          726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
                                          755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
                                          820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%

                                          846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

                                          J 1 Reply Last reply 24 Apr 2020, 22:18
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