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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #17

    Right, here’s what scares me, a good long stretch at 5% increases.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      Right, here’s what scares me, a good long stretch at 5% increases.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #18

      @LuFins-Dad said in US has a shitload of cases:

      Right, here’s what scares me, a good long stretch at 5% increases.

      Exactly. We haven't hit <1.0 yet.

      Please love yourself.

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #19

        Is there a good place to find that growth factor? I know (think) we are getting close to <1.0

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

          209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
          238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
          331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
          364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
          386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
          423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%

          2 days since update.

          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.

          jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #20

          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

          209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
          238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
          331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
          364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
          386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
          423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.

          658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • 89th8 89th

            Is there a good place to find that growth factor? I know (think) we are getting close to <1.0

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #21

            @89th said in US has a shitload of cases:

            Is there a good place to find that growth factor? I know (think) we are getting close to <1.0

            We are but like jon, I don't think we're ever going to get there.

            Please love yourself.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #22

              I would love for the Tibco estimates to be true.

              I keep meaning to look into the calculations with more detail.

              The reason I'm skeptical is the study from Wuhan and the study form Imperial College re Europe. Those were deep dives (which I've yet to fully dive into myself) into estimating R0 in countries that are ahead of us and/or did a stiricter lockdown. And they we not likely there.

              I worry the tibco calculations are less rigorous, something arithmetically generated with each new day's data. But I don't know enough yet.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #23

                But to answer your question 89, look here and scroll down. The site is pretty nonfunctional on mobile devices.

                https://demo.spotfire.cloud.tibco.com/spotfire/wp/analysis?file=/Public/COVID19 Insights&waid=P2gtdoUCWEGNNI5H79yua-1606130a13Atwl&wavid=0&options=3-0

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  Great site. Got better as I dug into each section, thanks!

                  @Aqua-Letifer What do you mean we're ever going to get there. I'd imagine very soon (in the next 2-3 weeks) we'll have fewer cases "today" than there were "yesterday" on a consistent basis.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Great site. Got better as I dug into each section, thanks!

                    @Aqua-Letifer What do you mean we're ever going to get there. I'd imagine very soon (in the next 2-3 weeks) we'll have fewer cases "today" than there were "yesterday" on a consistent basis.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #25

                    @89th I think slightly more people will continue to get infected per day than we have recoveries per day. Would be great to be wrong about that.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      89th
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #26

                      I see, sorry I haven't been following the stats as closely. I was referring to the growth factor of "new cases today < new cases yesterday", irregardless (kidding, regardless) of recoveries.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                        209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
                        238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
                        331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                        364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                        386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                        423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                        454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                        550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                        577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                        632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.

                        658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                        209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
                        238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
                        331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                        364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                        386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                        423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                        454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                        550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                        577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                        632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                        658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%

                        692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase. I'm thinking yesterday's number was wrong???

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                        jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                          209,071 14% increase.  Deaths 4633 up 25%
                          238,820, 14% increase.   Deaths 5758, up 24%."
                          331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                          364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                          386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                          423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                          658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%

                          692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase. I'm thinking yesterday's number was wrong???

                          jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #28

                          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                          331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                          364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                          386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                          423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                          658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                          692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.

                          726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%

                          At what point does a flat % increase go from being mildly encouraging to mildly concerning?

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #29

                            I’m not terribly surprised. I think my community is better than most, and I still am surprised at how cavalier some people are.

                            I commented to Aqua the other day that my biggest concern was a long drawn out stretch at 5%.

                            The Brad

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                              331,234, 11.5% daily* increase. Deaths 9458, 18% daily* increase.
                              364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                              386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                              423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                              454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                              550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                              577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                              632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                              658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                              692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.

                              726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%

                              At what point does a flat % increase go from being mildly encouraging to mildly concerning?

                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nycJ Online
                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #30

                              @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                              364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                              386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                              423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                              454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                              550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                              577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                              632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                              658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                              692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                              726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%

                              755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                              jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                364,723, 10% increase. Deaths 10,689, 13% increase.
                                386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%

                                755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%

                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                #31

                                @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
                                755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%

                                820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
                                jon-nycJ 1 Reply Last reply
                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                  386,817, 6% increase. Deaths 12,285 15% increase.
                                  423,135 9% increase. Deaths 14,390 17% increase.
                                  454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                  550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                  577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                  632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                  658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                  692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                  726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
                                  755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%

                                  820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%

                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #32

                                  @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                  454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                  550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                  577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                  632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                  658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                  692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                  726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
                                  755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
                                  820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%

                                  846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • 89th8 Offline
                                    89th8 Offline
                                    89th
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #33

                                    Slowly getting slower....... I stand by my May 1st date for passing 1,000,000. Might arrive a tad earlier, though.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nycJ Online
                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #34

                                      Yeah I think it will

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #35

                                        The slowing rate of growth with regards to infection count ... how much of it is real and how much of it is due to testing capacity not growing fast enough to keep up with the growth in infection count?

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                          658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                          692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                          726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
                                          755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
                                          820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%

                                          846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%

                                          jon-nycJ Online
                                          jon-nycJ Online
                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #36

                                          @jon-nyc said in US has a shitload of cases:

                                          454,305 7.3% increase. Deaths 16,267 13% increase.
                                          550,016 6.6% daily increase. Deaths 21,994 10.6% daily increase.
                                          577,307 5% increase. Deaths 23,219 up 5.6%
                                          632,878 4.7% daily increase. Deaths 27,850 9.5% daily increase.
                                          658,263 4% increase. Deaths 32,186 up 15.6%
                                          692,169 5.2% increase. Deaths 32,232 up 0.14% increase.
                                          726,645 5% increase. Deaths 37,938 up 17.7%
                                          755,533 4% increase. Deaths 40,461 up 6.7%
                                          820,104. 4.2% increase. Deaths 44,228 up 4.6%
                                          846,982 3.3% increase. Deaths 46,560 up 5.3%

                                          890,524, 2.5% increase. Deaths 51,017 up up 4.7%.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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