Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal
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@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.
wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 02:11 last edited by Doctor Phibes@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.
The British learned it in the 19th Century, or at least they should have.
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@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.
The British learned it in the 19th Century, or at least they should have.
wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 02:12 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British learned it in the 19th Century.
"....second as farce."
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 03:24 last edited by
The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 10:53 last edited by Doctor Phibes
@jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 11:47 last edited by Copper
This is all a ploy
When they come out into the open they will get blown to bits
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 14:23 last edited by
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@jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.
wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 14:29 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.
Hey, you're the one that brought it up...
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 15:22 last edited by xenon
@jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
true, but the Taliban still upgraded their AK47s to American arms and humvees
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@jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
That, and a lot more.
It's like Christmas in August...
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 16:11 last edited by Doctor Phibes
I think it's clear this was always going to happen.
I heard Paul Wolfowitz on the radio this morning saying it was a disastrous error. And he sure knows a lot about those.
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I think it's clear this was always going to happen.
I heard Paul Wolfowitz on the radio this morning saying it was a disastrous error. And he sure knows a lot about those.
wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 16:18 last edited by@doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?
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@doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?
wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 16:53 last edited by@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?
Not that I heard. He just said it was awful. As bad as the end of Vietnam.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 17:14 last edited by
Well, at least Biden didn't say anything that hurt somebody's feelings..,,,,
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 17:19 last edited by
There are only two possible outcomes - we stay or we go. Was there any possibility of a positive outcome by staying or had all that could be accomplished been done? It's been 20 years.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 17:25 last edited by
I watched Blinken provide a debrief last night. It was fascinating watching his word choice and clear discomfort in trying to put a good face on an unmitigated disaster.
We will see if the Taliban allow us to withdraw from Kabul on an orderly basis or if there will be a siege. Mik was right about the comparisons to the last days of Saigon.
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wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 20:11 last edited by
“His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.
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“His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.
wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 20:25 last edited by@horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
“His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.
I said Blinken.
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@horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
“His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.
I said Blinken.
wrote on 14 Aug 2021, 20:35 last edited by@loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
“His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.
I said Blinken.
Ah, my bad. Rent free in my head, as they say.