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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

    @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

    Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

    Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.

    The British learned it in the 19th Century, or at least they should have.

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    George K
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    @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

    The British learned it in the 19th Century.

    "....second as farce."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

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        Doctor Phibes
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        @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

        The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

        Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.

        I was only joking

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          Copper
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          #30

          This is all a ploy

          When they come out into the open they will get blown to bits

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            George K
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            #31

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

              The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

              Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.

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              @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

              @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

              The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

              Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.

              Hey, you're the one that brought it up...

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

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                xenon
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                #33

                @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

                true, but the Taliban still upgraded their AK47s to American arms and humvees

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                    @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                    That, and a lot more.

                    It's like Christmas in August...

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #37

                        I think it's clear this was always going to happen.

                        I heard Paul Wolfowitz on the radio this morning saying it was a disastrous error. And he sure knows a lot about those.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          I think it's clear this was always going to happen.

                          I heard Paul Wolfowitz on the radio this morning saying it was a disastrous error. And he sure knows a lot about those.

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                          George K
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                          @doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?

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                            @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                            @doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?

                            Not that I heard. He just said it was awful. As bad as the end of Vietnam.

                            I was only joking

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                              Well, at least Biden didn't say anything that hurt somebody's feelings..,,,,

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                There are only two possible outcomes - we stay or we go. Was there any possibility of a positive outcome by staying or had all that could be accomplished been done? It's been 20 years.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  I watched Blinken provide a debrief last night. It was fascinating watching his word choice and clear discomfort in trying to put a good face on an unmitigated disaster.

                                  We will see if the Taliban allow us to withdraw from Kabul on an orderly basis or if there will be a siege. Mik was right about the comparisons to the last days of Saigon.

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                                    “His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      “His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.

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                                      @horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                      “His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.

                                      I said Blinken.

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                                        @horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        “His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.

                                        I said Blinken.

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                                        @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        @horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        “His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.

                                        I said Blinken.

                                        Ah, my bad. Rent free in my head, as they say.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          @horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          “His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.

                                          I said Blinken.

                                          Ah, my bad. Rent free in my head, as they say.

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                                          @horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          @loki said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          @horace said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                          “His” word choice? I’m afraid the days of POTUS choosing his own words are temporarily suspended, pending the next transfer of power.

                                          I said Blinken.

                                          Ah, my bad. Rent free in my head, as they say.

                                          I get your point though. Biden is making him sell a shit sandwich. 3 battalions are withdrawing to Kabul to protect the outflow of American interests in the city. I do wonder what the Taliban will do. I think the US is counting on no siege. I would love to be in the war room as that assessment is being continually updated.

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