Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal
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@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
Goldberg: Dishonor in Afghanistan
There's a lot of hand-wringing and shoulda coulda, but I don't see him offering an alternative, assuming that the US wants to get out.
If not this way, how?
He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.
And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.
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@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.
And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.
@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.
And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.
I don't see how staying is going to make anything any better.
People who praised Trump's isolationist instincts are now saying this is the worst decision since the last really bad decision, presumably made by a Democrat.
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
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@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.
And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.
I don't see how staying is going to make anything any better.
People who praised Trump's isolationist instincts are now saying this is the worst decision since the last really bad decision, presumably made by a Democrat.
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.
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@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.
@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.
The British learned it in the 19th Century, or at least they should have.
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@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.
Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.
The British learned it in the 19th Century, or at least they should have.
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British learned it in the 19th Century.
"....second as farce."
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The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
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@jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.
I was only joking
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@jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.
@doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.
Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.
Hey, you're the one that brought it up...
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I think it's clear this was always going to happen.
I heard Paul Wolfowitz on the radio this morning saying it was a disastrous error. And he sure knows a lot about those.
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I think it's clear this was always going to happen.
I heard Paul Wolfowitz on the radio this morning saying it was a disastrous error. And he sure knows a lot about those.
@doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?
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@doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?
@george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:
@doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?
Not that I heard. He just said it was awful. As bad as the end of Vietnam.
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I watched Blinken provide a debrief last night. It was fascinating watching his word choice and clear discomfort in trying to put a good face on an unmitigated disaster.
We will see if the Taliban allow us to withdraw from Kabul on an orderly basis or if there will be a siege. Mik was right about the comparisons to the last days of Saigon.
