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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by xenon
    #21

    Dishonor in Afghanistan and dishonor with the Kurds. We’ve been a fickle partner in war lately.

    I’m curious how soldiers feel though. I work with a bunch of former officers, I should ask them.

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    • George KG George K

      Goldberg: Dishonor in Afghanistan

      There's a lot of hand-wringing and shoulda coulda, but I don't see him offering an alternative, assuming that the US wants to get out.

      If not this way, how?

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      @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

      Goldberg: Dishonor in Afghanistan

      There's a lot of hand-wringing and shoulda coulda, but I don't see him offering an alternative, assuming that the US wants to get out.

      If not this way, how?

      He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

      I was only joking

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        @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

        Goldberg: Dishonor in Afghanistan

        There's a lot of hand-wringing and shoulda coulda, but I don't see him offering an alternative, assuming that the US wants to get out.

        If not this way, how?

        He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

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        George K
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        @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

        He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

        And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

          He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

          And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

          @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

          He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

          And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.

          I don't see how staying is going to make anything any better.

          People who praised Trump's isolationist instincts are now saying this is the worst decision since the last really bad decision, presumably made by a Democrat.

          Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

          I was only joking

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            @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

            @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

            He rambles on and on, but doesn't actually suggest a solution, he just knows this is bad.

            And he's not the only one. All the usual suspects are berating Biden's decision (which, tbh, sort of mirrored Trump's decision), and offering nothing in terms of suggestion as to what to do, other than stay.

            I don't see how staying is going to make anything any better.

            People who praised Trump's isolationist instincts are now saying this is the worst decision since the last really bad decision, presumably made by a Democrat.

            Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

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            George K
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            @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

            Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

            Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

              Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

              Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

              @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

              Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

              Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.

              The British learned it in the 19th Century, or at least they should have.

              I was only joking

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                @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                Afghanistan just seems like a clusterfuck to me. The Superpower killer.

                Indeed. The Soviets learned that a quarter of a century ago.

                The British learned it in the 19th Century, or at least they should have.

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                George K
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                #27

                @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                The British learned it in the 19th Century.

                "....second as farce."

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

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                    The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #29

                    @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                    The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

                    Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.

                    I was only joking

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                      Copper
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                      #30

                      This is all a ploy

                      When they come out into the open they will get blown to bits

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                        George K
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                          The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

                          Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.

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                          Jolly
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                          @doctor-phibes said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                          @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                          The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

                          Yeah, that's the main thing to worry about here.

                          Hey, you're the one that brought it up...

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

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                            xenon
                            wrote on last edited by xenon
                            #33

                            @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                            The British and the Soviets got their ass kicked. We didn't.

                            true, but the Taliban still upgraded their AK47s to American arms and humvees

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                              Jolly
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                                Jolly
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                                @jolly said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                That, and a lot more.

                                It's like Christmas in August...

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                                  Jolly
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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    I think it's clear this was always going to happen.

                                    I heard Paul Wolfowitz on the radio this morning saying it was a disastrous error. And he sure knows a lot about those.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      I think it's clear this was always going to happen.

                                      I heard Paul Wolfowitz on the radio this morning saying it was a disastrous error. And he sure knows a lot about those.

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                                      George K
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                                      @doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?

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                                        @george-k said in Biden "Forcefully" defends Afghan withdrawal:

                                        @doctor-phibes Did he offer any long-term solutions?

                                        Not that I heard. He just said it was awful. As bad as the end of Vietnam.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Well, at least Biden didn't say anything that hurt somebody's feelings..,,,,

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