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  • HoraceH Horace

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump himself consents to transition:

    If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

    I don't expect things to get better. But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

    But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

    How's it working out for us so far?

    It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

    I was only joking

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Attention seeking, I would presume.

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      Horace
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      @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

      Attention seeking, I would presume.

      Do some googling.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

        But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

        How's it working out for us so far?

        It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

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        Horace
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        #55

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump himself consents to transition:

        @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

        But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

        How's it working out for us so far?

        It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

        Yes I get the nihilism. But I also get the absence of solutions.

        Education is extremely important.

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          #56

          How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

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            @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

            How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

            That's not what I said.

            I'm fucking done with this shit.

            I was only joking

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              Jolly
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              #58

              Your choice.

              Enjoy your day.😘

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Your choice.

                Enjoy your day.😘

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                @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                Your choice.
                Enjoy your day

                No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                  Your choice.
                  Enjoy your day

                  No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                  And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

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                  @Catseye3 said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                  @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                  Your choice.
                  Enjoy your day

                  No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                  And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

                  Put the crack pipe down and back away from the keyboard, before you launch yourself into another miasma.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                    Your choice.
                    Enjoy your day

                    No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                    And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

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                    Horace
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                    @Catseye3 said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                    @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                    Your choice.
                    Enjoy your day

                    No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                    Somewhere in the thought soup was my whataboutism with the hatred of Trump vs the hatred of the riots. It's a valid whataboutism, and one that those who identify as on the left continue to be reluctant, or incapable, to own.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Horace
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                      Not the only one, of course. I mean they watched the NYT essay, and subsequent book, from the adults in the white house, actively subverting Trump, and said nothing. These are not principled or courageous people, these are primates who can't see past the overwhelming desire to personally win.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Let us be honest, there is TDS from lots of people here.

                        TDS from the left - Trump Derangment Syndrom

                        TDS from the right - Trump Deification Syndrom

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                          I can't find one single instance of "deification".

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                          • LarryL Larry

                            I can't find one single instance of "deification".

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                            @taiwan_girl said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                            Let us be honest, there is TDS from lots of people here.

                            TDS from the left - Trump Derangment Syndrom

                            TDS from the right - Trump Deification Syndrom

                            We all need to look in the mirror daily.

                            Doctor Phibes
                            Doctor Phibes about 11 hours ago

                            If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

                            Exactly.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                              This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

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                              What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

                              But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

                              Right, it's just a Trump-like figure. Not the electors that tried to steal the election from him in 2016.

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                              Horace
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                              @horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                              @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                              This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

                              Screen Shot 2020-11-24 at 1.32.15 PM.png

                              What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

                              But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

                              Right, it's just a Trump-like figure. Not the electors that tried to steal the election from him in 2016.

                              Wherein I remind jon of the electors with TDS in 2016 trying to build a cross-aisle coalition of faithlessness in a last ditch effort to subvert the will of the people and keep Trump from the White House. See above for the rest of the conversation. Then google for the true motivations of the Democrat electors who pulled the stunt. The worms admitted it on NPR. Probably bragged about it, thinking it would come off as righteous.

                              Number of fucks given by the left at this enormous destruction of political norms: zero.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                The point of contention isn’t whether you’ve ever mentioned it. This is your claim from yesterday:

                                Even jon pretended not to understand it happened.

                                That’s false.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  The point of contention isn’t whether you’ve ever mentioned it. This is your claim from yesterday:

                                  Even jon pretended not to understand it happened.

                                  That’s false.

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                                  Horace
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                  The point of contention isn’t whether you’ve ever mentioned it. This is your claim from yesterday:

                                  Even jon pretended not to understand it happened.

                                  That’s false.

                                  Ok then you were unaware it happened. I guess the MSM did its job in covering it up, even to the extent a detailed follower of politics like you was unaware of this attempted breach of fundamental political norms by your own side.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                    The point of contention isn’t whether you’ve ever mentioned it. This is your claim from yesterday:

                                    Even jon pretended not to understand it happened.

                                    That’s false.

                                    Ok then you were unaware it happened. I guess the MSM did its job in covering it up, even to the extent a detailed follower of politics like you was unaware of this attempted breach of fundamental political norms by your own side.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    @horace

                                    That’s also false.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @horace

                                      That’s also false.

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                                      Horace
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                                      @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                      @horace

                                      That’s also false.

                                      By all means explain yourself. And thanks for refraining from using the phrase straw man, I know you are tempted.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        I was not unaware that 2016 had numerous faithless electors.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          I was not unaware that 2016 had numerous faithless electors.

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                                          Horace
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                                          @jon-nyc you were unaware it was an attempt to build a coalition of faithlessness to deprive Trump of the White House.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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