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Trump himself consents to transition

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
    #46

    This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

    Screen Shot 2020-11-24 at 1.32.15 PM.png

    What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

    But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #47

      And again, to take no personal responsibility for the floyd riots is disingenuous for anybody who enjoys expressing righteous outrage every time a narrative is created around how awful the lives of minorities are. When the narrative is clearly disingenuous to begin with.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

        Screen Shot 2020-11-24 at 1.32.15 PM.png

        What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

        But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

        HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #48

        @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

        This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

        Screen Shot 2020-11-24 at 1.32.15 PM.png

        What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

        But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

        Right, it's just a Trump-like figure. Not the electors that tried to steal the election from him in 2016.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #49

          Dude - do some googling. More electors abandoned Hillary than abandoned Trump.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #50

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump himself consents to transition:

            If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

            I don't expect things to get better. But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Dude - do some googling. More electors abandoned Hillary than abandoned Trump.

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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #51

              @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

              Dude - do some googling. More electors abandoned Hillary than abandoned Trump.

              What was their motivation?

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #52

                Attention seeking, I would presume.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                  If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

                  I don't expect things to get better. But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

                  Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                  #53

                  @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                  But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

                  How's it working out for us so far?

                  It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

                  I was only joking

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Attention seeking, I would presume.

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #54

                    @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                    Attention seeking, I would presume.

                    Do some googling.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                      But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

                      How's it working out for us so far?

                      It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #55

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                      @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                      But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

                      How's it working out for us so far?

                      It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

                      Yes I get the nihilism. But I also get the absence of solutions.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #56

                        How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #57

                          @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                          How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

                          That's not what I said.

                          I'm fucking done with this shit.

                          I was only joking

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #58

                            Your choice.

                            Enjoy your day.😘

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Your choice.

                              Enjoy your day.😘

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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #59

                              @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                              Your choice.
                              Enjoy your day

                              No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                              And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                Your choice.
                                Enjoy your day

                                No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                                And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #60

                                @Catseye3 said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                Your choice.
                                Enjoy your day

                                No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                                And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

                                Put the crack pipe down and back away from the keyboard, before you launch yourself into another miasma.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                  Your choice.
                                  Enjoy your day

                                  No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                                  And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

                                  HoraceH Offline
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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #61

                                  @Catseye3 said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                  @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                  Your choice.
                                  Enjoy your day

                                  No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                                  Somewhere in the thought soup was my whataboutism with the hatred of Trump vs the hatred of the riots. It's a valid whataboutism, and one that those who identify as on the left continue to be reluctant, or incapable, to own.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #62

                                    Not the only one, of course. I mean they watched the NYT essay, and subsequent book, from the adults in the white house, actively subverting Trump, and said nothing. These are not principled or courageous people, these are primates who can't see past the overwhelming desire to personally win.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #63

                                      Let us be honest, there is TDS from lots of people here.

                                      TDS from the left - Trump Derangment Syndrom

                                      TDS from the right - Trump Deification Syndrom

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                                        Larry
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #64

                                        I can't find one single instance of "deification".

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                                        • LarryL Larry

                                          I can't find one single instance of "deification".

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                                          AndyD
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #65

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                          Let us be honest, there is TDS from lots of people here.

                                          TDS from the left - Trump Derangment Syndrom

                                          TDS from the right - Trump Deification Syndrom

                                          We all need to look in the mirror daily.

                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          Doctor Phibes about 11 hours ago

                                          If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

                                          Exactly.

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