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    Horace
    wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:41 last edited by
    #47

    And again, to take no personal responsibility for the floyd riots is disingenuous for anybody who enjoys expressing righteous outrage every time a narrative is created around how awful the lives of minorities are. When the narrative is clearly disingenuous to begin with.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • J jon-nyc
      24 Nov 2020, 18:40

      This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

      Screen Shot 2020-11-24 at 1.32.15 PM.png

      What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

      But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

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      Horace
      wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:41 last edited by
      #48

      @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

      This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

      Screen Shot 2020-11-24 at 1.32.15 PM.png

      What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

      But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

      Right, it's just a Trump-like figure. Not the electors that tried to steal the election from him in 2016.

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:42 last edited by
        #49

        Dude - do some googling. More electors abandoned Hillary than abandoned Trump.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • D Doctor Phibes
          24 Nov 2020, 18:40

          If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

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          Horace
          wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:43 last edited by
          #50

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump himself consents to transition:

          If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

          I don't expect things to get better. But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • J jon-nyc
            24 Nov 2020, 18:42

            Dude - do some googling. More electors abandoned Hillary than abandoned Trump.

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            Horace
            wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:44 last edited by
            #51

            @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

            Dude - do some googling. More electors abandoned Hillary than abandoned Trump.

            What was their motivation?

            Education is extremely important.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:44 last edited by
              #52

              Attention seeking, I would presume.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • H Horace
                24 Nov 2020, 18:43

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

                I don't expect things to get better. But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:44 last edited by Doctor Phibes
                #53

                @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

                How's it working out for us so far?

                It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

                I was only joking

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                • J jon-nyc
                  24 Nov 2020, 18:44

                  Attention seeking, I would presume.

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:45 last edited by
                  #54

                  @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                  Attention seeking, I would presume.

                  Do some googling.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • D Doctor Phibes
                    24 Nov 2020, 18:44

                    @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                    But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

                    How's it working out for us so far?

                    It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:46 last edited by
                    #55

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                    @Horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                    But I won't say that whataboutism is inherently a bad mode of thinking.

                    How's it working out for us so far?

                    It's really simple. If we keep on doing what we're doing, we're just going to get more of what we've got.

                    Yes I get the nihilism. But I also get the absence of solutions.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:49 last edited by
                      #56

                      How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly
                        24 Nov 2020, 18:49

                        How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:53 last edited by
                        #57

                        @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                        How anyone can equate looting, burning and killing with due process in a court of law begs belief...

                        That's not what I said.

                        I'm fucking done with this shit.

                        I was only joking

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 18:56 last edited by
                          #58

                          Your choice.

                          Enjoy your day.😘

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                          Catseye3C 1 Reply Last reply 24 Nov 2020, 19:06
                          • JollyJ Jolly
                            24 Nov 2020, 18:56

                            Your choice.

                            Enjoy your day.😘

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                            Catseye3
                            wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 19:06 last edited by
                            #59

                            @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                            Your choice.
                            Enjoy your day

                            No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                            And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • Catseye3C Catseye3
                              24 Nov 2020, 19:06

                              @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                              Your choice.
                              Enjoy your day

                              No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                              And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 19:07 last edited by
                              #60

                              @Catseye3 said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                              @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                              Your choice.
                              Enjoy your day

                              No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                              And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

                              Put the crack pipe down and back away from the keyboard, before you launch yourself into another miasma.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • Catseye3C Catseye3
                                24 Nov 2020, 19:06

                                @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                Your choice.
                                Enjoy your day

                                No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                                And what you meant to say is "defies belief", not begs belief. At least get your distortions right.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 19:13 last edited by
                                #61

                                @Catseye3 said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                @Jolly said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                Your choice.
                                Enjoy your day

                                No, you don't get to pull that holier-than-thou shit after posting one of your off-world responses to something somebody said. I went back and reviewed the thread, and Phibes said nothing like what you accused him of.

                                Somewhere in the thought soup was my whataboutism with the hatred of Trump vs the hatred of the riots. It's a valid whataboutism, and one that those who identify as on the left continue to be reluctant, or incapable, to own.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 24 Nov 2020, 19:15 last edited by
                                  #62

                                  Not the only one, of course. I mean they watched the NYT essay, and subsequent book, from the adults in the white house, actively subverting Trump, and said nothing. These are not principled or courageous people, these are primates who can't see past the overwhelming desire to personally win.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote on 25 Nov 2020, 01:00 last edited by
                                    #63

                                    Let us be honest, there is TDS from lots of people here.

                                    TDS from the left - Trump Derangment Syndrom

                                    TDS from the right - Trump Deification Syndrom

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on 25 Nov 2020, 01:02 last edited by
                                      #64

                                      I can't find one single instance of "deification".

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                                      • LarryL Larry
                                        25 Nov 2020, 01:02

                                        I can't find one single instance of "deification".

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                                        AndyD
                                        wrote on 25 Nov 2020, 06:19 last edited by
                                        #65

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                        Let us be honest, there is TDS from lots of people here.

                                        TDS from the left - Trump Derangment Syndrom

                                        TDS from the right - Trump Deification Syndrom

                                        We all need to look in the mirror daily.

                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        Doctor Phibes about 11 hours ago

                                        If all we ever do is point the finger about how the other side are worse or as bad, how is anything ever going to get better?

                                        Exactly.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          24 Nov 2020, 18:41

                                          @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                          This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

                                          Screen Shot 2020-11-24 at 1.32.15 PM.png

                                          What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

                                          But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

                                          Right, it's just a Trump-like figure. Not the electors that tried to steal the election from him in 2016.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 23 Dec 2020, 16:08 last edited by Horace
                                          #66

                                          @horace said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Trump himself consents to transition:

                                          This was my concern expressed 5.5 months ago.

                                          Screen Shot 2020-11-24 at 1.32.15 PM.png

                                          What saved us is the answer to my last question was 'yes'. Other institutions saved us from Trumps attempt to subvert our democracy. Specifically, state courts and the conscience of Michigan's GOP leaders. In absence of the latter it's highly likely that Michigan's state courts would have protected us. This time.

                                          But yes, I agree with your point, @Horace. We need to make sure some other Trump-like figure couldn't do this again.

                                          Right, it's just a Trump-like figure. Not the electors that tried to steal the election from him in 2016.

                                          Wherein I remind jon of the electors with TDS in 2016 trying to build a cross-aisle coalition of faithlessness in a last ditch effort to subvert the will of the people and keep Trump from the White House. See above for the rest of the conversation. Then google for the true motivations of the Democrat electors who pulled the stunt. The worms admitted it on NPR. Probably bragged about it, thinking it would come off as righteous.

                                          Number of fucks given by the left at this enormous destruction of political norms: zero.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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