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  • 89th8 Offline
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    89th
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    Umm, yes. Sorry if I missed the cross-thread connection...?

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

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        @george-k said in Student loans:

        I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt

        I owe about that on my car.

        This is unacceptable.

        I was only joking

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
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          Personally, I am all for Student Loan forgiveness, but it’s just not the right time. In 3.5 years I think we will be ready….

          The Brad

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            I think this may be a solution for some:

            https://award.mylrap.org/?i=LAC

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              xenon
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              You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

              It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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              • X xenon

                You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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                @xenon said in Student loans:

                You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

                I generally agree except I think we should have a one-time forgiveness in May of 2024, possibly a follow up 2 years later, and one more in 2041.

                The Brad

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                  My 4 years of college tuition (45 years ago) wasn't much by today's standards, but I would like to have it back. And it would be nice if you could adjust for inflation.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    I finished college with 200 GBP more than I started with. It cost my parents about 200 pounds a year, I think (to cover living expenses). Fees were paid automatically, and I got about 2 thousand a year to live on.

                    I was only joking

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                        George K
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                        @89th said in Student loans:

                        stop this madness already

                        I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @89th said in Student loans:

                          stop this madness already

                          I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                          @george-k said in Student loans:

                          @89th said in Student loans:

                          stop this madness already

                          I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                          That was 11 years ago.

                          Now it is really, really expensive.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @89th said in Student loans:

                            stop this madness already

                            I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                            @george-k said in Student loans:

                            @89th said in Student loans:

                            stop this madness already

                            I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                            "Move along, nothing to see here" in 300 pages. I don't suspect it's aged well, if it was ever meaningful in the first place.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                              I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                              In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                              Adjusted for inflation -

                              Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 5.55.20 PM.png

                              I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @89th said in Student loans:

                                stop this madness already

                                I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                @george-k said in Student loans:

                                @89th said in Student loans:

                                stop this madness already

                                I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                Good pull! I think I worked on that book cover too, or at least helped him 10 years ago on that.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                                  I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                                  In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                                  Adjusted for inflation -

                                  Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 5.55.20 PM.png

                                  I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

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                                  xenon
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                                  @george-k said in Student loans:

                                  I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                  That's almost exactly my kids preschool cost for the year. (And we did not choose one of the swanky ones)

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                                  • X xenon

                                    @george-k said in Student loans:

                                    I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                    That's almost exactly my kids preschool cost for the year. (And we did not choose one of the swanky ones)

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                                    George K
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                                    @xenon and I graduated with zero debt. My parents were generous, of course, but not extravagant.

                                    Today, medical school is north of $65K.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        @george-k said in Student loans:

                                        Not really. What they mean is “force the median taxpayer to pay off the student loans of middle-class to affluent college grads”

                                        The median tax dollar does not come from working class folks.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @george-k said in Student loans:

                                          Not really. What they mean is “force the median taxpayer to pay off the student loans of middle-class to affluent college grads”

                                          The median tax dollar does not come from working class folks.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          @jon-nyc said in Student loans:

                                          Not really. What they mean is “force the median taxpayer to pay off the student loans of middle-class to affluent college grads”
                                          The median tax dollar does not come from working class folks.

                                          Picky, picky, picky...lol.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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