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    George K
    wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 23:07 last edited by
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    D2 has a significant amount of student loan. She doesn't earn a congresscritter's salary - by a long shot.

    Yeah, crocodile tears.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
      wrote on 6 Dec 2021, 23:15 last edited by
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      Also, are those federal or private loans?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        6 Dec 2021, 23:15

        Also, are those federal or private loans?

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 01:09 last edited by
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        @george-k said in Student loans:

        Also, are those federal or private loans?

        No way they are federal. $31K limit for dependents, $57k for independents…

        Grad School has $20K limits per year.

        The Brad

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        • M Mik
          6 Dec 2021, 23:05

          I saw that this morning. The comments after were enlightening. They weren't all on that tweet. Mostly about how she makes $170K annually and whines about owing money because she pays the minimum. In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

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          89th
          wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 12:37 last edited by
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          @mik said in Student loans:

          In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

          Basically! People bought a product/service knowing the terms of their debt. Welcome to the real world. It's not all free.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 13:45 last edited by
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            @89th said in Student loans:

            @mik said in Student loans:

            In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

            Welcome to the real world.

            Would that include paying rent?

            Please love yourself.

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              89th
              wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 14:49 last edited by
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              Umm, yes. Sorry if I missed the cross-thread connection...?

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                George K
                wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 12:07 last edited by George K 12 Sept 2021, 12:08
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                “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • G George K
                  9 Dec 2021, 12:07

                  “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 12:38 last edited by
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                  @george-k said in Student loans:

                  I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt

                  I owe about that on my car.

                  This is unacceptable.

                  I was only joking

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 12:59 last edited by
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                    Personally, I am all for Student Loan forgiveness, but it’s just not the right time. In 3.5 years I think we will be ready….

                    The Brad

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 14:04 last edited by
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                      I think this may be a solution for some:

                      https://award.mylrap.org/?i=LAC

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        xenon
                        wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 16:55 last edited by
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                        You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                        It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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                        • X xenon
                          9 Dec 2021, 16:55

                          You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                          It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 17:16 last edited by
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                          @xenon said in Student loans:

                          You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                          It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

                          I generally agree except I think we should have a one-time forgiveness in May of 2024, possibly a follow up 2 years later, and one more in 2041.

                          The Brad

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 17:27 last edited by
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                            My 4 years of college tuition (45 years ago) wasn't much by today's standards, but I would like to have it back. And it would be nice if you could adjust for inflation.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 18:02 last edited by
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                              I finished college with 200 GBP more than I started with. It cost my parents about 200 pounds a year, I think (to cover living expenses). Fees were paid automatically, and I got about 2 thousand a year to live on.

                              I was only joking

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                                89th
                                wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:37 last edited by
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                                The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                                  9 Dec 2021, 23:37

                                  The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:44 last edited by
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                                  @89th said in Student loans:

                                  stop this madness already

                                  I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    9 Dec 2021, 23:44

                                    @89th said in Student loans:

                                    stop this madness already

                                    I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:50 last edited by
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                                    @george-k said in Student loans:

                                    @89th said in Student loans:

                                    stop this madness already

                                    I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                    That was 11 years ago.

                                    Now it is really, really expensive.

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                                    • G George K
                                      9 Dec 2021, 23:44

                                      @89th said in Student loans:

                                      stop this madness already

                                      I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:51 last edited by
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                                      @george-k said in Student loans:

                                      @89th said in Student loans:

                                      stop this madness already

                                      I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                      "Move along, nothing to see here" in 300 pages. I don't suspect it's aged well, if it was ever meaningful in the first place.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:56 last edited by
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                                        I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                                        I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                                        In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                                        Adjusted for inflation -

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                                        I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          9 Dec 2021, 23:44

                                          @89th said in Student loans:

                                          stop this madness already

                                          I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 00:19 last edited by
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                                          @george-k said in Student loans:

                                          @89th said in Student loans:

                                          stop this madness already

                                          I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                          Good pull! I think I worked on that book cover too, or at least helped him 10 years ago on that.

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