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  • George KG George K

    Also, are those federal or private loans?

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    LuFins Dad
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    @george-k said in Student loans:

    Also, are those federal or private loans?

    No way they are federal. $31K limit for dependents, $57k for independents…

    Grad School has $20K limits per year.

    The Brad

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    • MikM Mik

      I saw that this morning. The comments after were enlightening. They weren't all on that tweet. Mostly about how she makes $170K annually and whines about owing money because she pays the minimum. In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

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      @mik said in Student loans:

      In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

      Basically! People bought a product/service knowing the terms of their debt. Welcome to the real world. It's not all free.

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        Aqua Letifer
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        @89th said in Student loans:

        @mik said in Student loans:

        In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

        Welcome to the real world.

        Would that include paying rent?

        Please love yourself.

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          89th
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          Umm, yes. Sorry if I missed the cross-thread connection...?

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

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              @george-k said in Student loans:

              I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt

              I owe about that on my car.

              This is unacceptable.

              I was only joking

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                Personally, I am all for Student Loan forgiveness, but it’s just not the right time. In 3.5 years I think we will be ready….

                The Brad

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                  I think this may be a solution for some:

                  https://award.mylrap.org/?i=LAC

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    xenon
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                    You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                    It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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                    • X xenon

                      You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                      It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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                      @xenon said in Student loans:

                      You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                      It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

                      I generally agree except I think we should have a one-time forgiveness in May of 2024, possibly a follow up 2 years later, and one more in 2041.

                      The Brad

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                        My 4 years of college tuition (45 years ago) wasn't much by today's standards, but I would like to have it back. And it would be nice if you could adjust for inflation.

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                          I finished college with 200 GBP more than I started with. It cost my parents about 200 pounds a year, I think (to cover living expenses). Fees were paid automatically, and I got about 2 thousand a year to live on.

                          I was only joking

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                            The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                              George K
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                              @89th said in Student loans:

                              stop this madness already

                              I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @89th said in Student loans:

                                stop this madness already

                                I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                @george-k said in Student loans:

                                @89th said in Student loans:

                                stop this madness already

                                I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                That was 11 years ago.

                                Now it is really, really expensive.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @89th said in Student loans:

                                  stop this madness already

                                  I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                  @george-k said in Student loans:

                                  @89th said in Student loans:

                                  stop this madness already

                                  I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                  "Move along, nothing to see here" in 300 pages. I don't suspect it's aged well, if it was ever meaningful in the first place.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                                    I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                                    In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                                    Adjusted for inflation -

                                    Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 5.55.20 PM.png

                                    I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      @89th said in Student loans:

                                      stop this madness already

                                      I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                      @george-k said in Student loans:

                                      @89th said in Student loans:

                                      stop this madness already

                                      I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                      Good pull! I think I worked on that book cover too, or at least helped him 10 years ago on that.

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                                        I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                                        In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                                        Adjusted for inflation -

                                        Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 5.55.20 PM.png

                                        I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

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                                        xenon
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                                        @george-k said in Student loans:

                                        I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                        That's almost exactly my kids preschool cost for the year. (And we did not choose one of the swanky ones)

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                                        • X xenon

                                          @george-k said in Student loans:

                                          I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                          That's almost exactly my kids preschool cost for the year. (And we did not choose one of the swanky ones)

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                                          George K
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                                          @xenon and I graduated with zero debt. My parents were generous, of course, but not extravagant.

                                          Today, medical school is north of $65K.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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