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  • M Mik
    6 Dec 2021, 23:05

    I saw that this morning. The comments after were enlightening. They weren't all on that tweet. Mostly about how she makes $170K annually and whines about owing money because she pays the minimum. In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

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    89th
    wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 12:37 last edited by
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    @mik said in Student loans:

    In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

    Basically! People bought a product/service knowing the terms of their debt. Welcome to the real world. It's not all free.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 13:45 last edited by
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      @89th said in Student loans:

      @mik said in Student loans:

      In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

      Welcome to the real world.

      Would that include paying rent?

      Please love yourself.

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        89th
        wrote on 7 Dec 2021, 14:49 last edited by
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        Umm, yes. Sorry if I missed the cross-thread connection...?

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          George K
          wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 12:07 last edited by George K 12 Sept 2021, 12:08
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          “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            9 Dec 2021, 12:07

            “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 12:38 last edited by
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            @george-k said in Student loans:

            I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt

            I owe about that on my car.

            This is unacceptable.

            I was only joking

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 12:59 last edited by
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              Personally, I am all for Student Loan forgiveness, but it’s just not the right time. In 3.5 years I think we will be ready….

              The Brad

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                Jolly
                wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 14:04 last edited by
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                I think this may be a solution for some:

                https://award.mylrap.org/?i=LAC

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 16:55 last edited by
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                  You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                  It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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                  • X xenon
                    9 Dec 2021, 16:55

                    You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                    It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 17:16 last edited by
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                    @xenon said in Student loans:

                    You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                    It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

                    I generally agree except I think we should have a one-time forgiveness in May of 2024, possibly a follow up 2 years later, and one more in 2041.

                    The Brad

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 17:27 last edited by
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                      My 4 years of college tuition (45 years ago) wasn't much by today's standards, but I would like to have it back. And it would be nice if you could adjust for inflation.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 18:02 last edited by
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                        I finished college with 200 GBP more than I started with. It cost my parents about 200 pounds a year, I think (to cover living expenses). Fees were paid automatically, and I got about 2 thousand a year to live on.

                        I was only joking

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                          89th
                          wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:37 last edited by
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                          The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                            9 Dec 2021, 23:37

                            The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                            George K
                            wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:44 last edited by
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                            @89th said in Student loans:

                            stop this madness already

                            I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • G George K
                              9 Dec 2021, 23:44

                              @89th said in Student loans:

                              stop this madness already

                              I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:50 last edited by
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                              @george-k said in Student loans:

                              @89th said in Student loans:

                              stop this madness already

                              I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                              That was 11 years ago.

                              Now it is really, really expensive.

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                              • G George K
                                9 Dec 2021, 23:44

                                @89th said in Student loans:

                                stop this madness already

                                I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:51 last edited by
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                                @george-k said in Student loans:

                                @89th said in Student loans:

                                stop this madness already

                                I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                "Move along, nothing to see here" in 300 pages. I don't suspect it's aged well, if it was ever meaningful in the first place.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 9 Dec 2021, 23:56 last edited by
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                                  I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                                  I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                                  In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                                  Adjusted for inflation -

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                                  I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • G George K
                                    9 Dec 2021, 23:44

                                    @89th said in Student loans:

                                    stop this madness already

                                    I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 00:19 last edited by
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                                    @george-k said in Student loans:

                                    @89th said in Student loans:

                                    stop this madness already

                                    I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                    Good pull! I think I worked on that book cover too, or at least helped him 10 years ago on that.

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                                      9 Dec 2021, 23:56

                                      I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                                      I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                                      In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                                      Adjusted for inflation -

                                      Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 5.55.20 PM.png

                                      I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 00:54 last edited by
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                                      @george-k said in Student loans:

                                      I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                      That's almost exactly my kids preschool cost for the year. (And we did not choose one of the swanky ones)

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                                      • X xenon
                                        10 Dec 2021, 00:54

                                        @george-k said in Student loans:

                                        I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                        That's almost exactly my kids preschool cost for the year. (And we did not choose one of the swanky ones)

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 10 Dec 2021, 01:31 last edited by
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                                        @xenon and I graduated with zero debt. My parents were generous, of course, but not extravagant.

                                        Today, medical school is north of $65K.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 13 Dec 2021, 01:19 last edited by
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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