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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    #7

    @89th said in Student loans:

    @mik said in Student loans:

    In other words she wants relief for credit card debt.

    Welcome to the real world.

    Would that include paying rent?

    Please love yourself.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      89th
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      #8

      Umm, yes. Sorry if I missed the cross-thread connection...?

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #9

        “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          “I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt, and I didn’t go to graduate school because I knew that getting another degree would drown me in debt that I would never be able to surpass. This is unacceptable.”

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #10

          @george-k said in Student loans:

          I’m 32 years old now,” the congresswoman said. “I have over $17,000 in student loan debt

          I owe about that on my car.

          This is unacceptable.

          I was only joking

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #11

            Personally, I am all for Student Loan forgiveness, but it’s just not the right time. In 3.5 years I think we will be ready….

            The Brad

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              #12

              I think this may be a solution for some:

              https://award.mylrap.org/?i=LAC

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                xenon
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                #13

                You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

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                • X xenon

                  You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                  It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  @xenon said in Student loans:

                  You can't give unlimited loans on the front-end where schools get into building arms races then jack up prices - while at the same time forgiving them on the back end.

                  It's just a crazy grovernment subsidy to schools, without any power to control costs. (Reminds me of healthcare)

                  I generally agree except I think we should have a one-time forgiveness in May of 2024, possibly a follow up 2 years later, and one more in 2041.

                  The Brad

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    #15

                    My 4 years of college tuition (45 years ago) wasn't much by today's standards, but I would like to have it back. And it would be nice if you could adjust for inflation.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      #16

                      I finished college with 200 GBP more than I started with. It cost my parents about 200 pounds a year, I think (to cover living expenses). Fees were paid automatically, and I got about 2 thousand a year to live on.

                      I was only joking

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        89th
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                        The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          The only way to stop this madness is to get out of the mentality of the government paying for everything, including paying off loans. Regulation, sure… heck even a requirement to align tuition with the CPI or inflation… but stop this madness already!

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                          George K
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                          @89th said in Student loans:

                          stop this madness already

                          I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @89th said in Student loans:

                            stop this madness already

                            I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                            @george-k said in Student loans:

                            @89th said in Student loans:

                            stop this madness already

                            I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                            That was 11 years ago.

                            Now it is really, really expensive.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @89th said in Student loans:

                              stop this madness already

                              I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                              @george-k said in Student loans:

                              @89th said in Student loans:

                              stop this madness already

                              I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                              "Move along, nothing to see here" in 300 pages. I don't suspect it's aged well, if it was ever meaningful in the first place.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                                I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                                In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                                Adjusted for inflation -

                                Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 5.55.20 PM.png

                                I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @89th said in Student loans:

                                  stop this madness already

                                  I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

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                                  89th
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                                  @george-k said in Student loans:

                                  @89th said in Student loans:

                                  stop this madness already

                                  I wish someone could tell us why college costs so much.

                                  Good pull! I think I worked on that book cover too, or at least helped him 10 years ago on that.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    I've posted this before, but just to recap.

                                    I grew up in a pretty middle-class family. Mom was a pediatrician (the lowest-paid specialty) and Dad was a lab rat at the U of I Dental School. We were comfortable. but not luxurious.

                                    In 1972, tuition at Northwestern Medical School, for my first year (excluding room & board, books) was $1,875 a year.

                                    Adjusted for inflation -

                                    Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 5.55.20 PM.png

                                    I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #23

                                    @george-k said in Student loans:

                                    I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                    That's almost exactly my kids preschool cost for the year. (And we did not choose one of the swanky ones)

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                                    • X xenon

                                      @george-k said in Student loans:

                                      I imagine few upper-middle class, or middle-class families today couldn't afford $12.5K for MEDICAL SCHOOL.

                                      That's almost exactly my kids preschool cost for the year. (And we did not choose one of the swanky ones)

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #24

                                      @xenon and I graduated with zero debt. My parents were generous, of course, but not extravagant.

                                      Today, medical school is north of $65K.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          #26

                                          @george-k said in Student loans:

                                          Not really. What they mean is “force the median taxpayer to pay off the student loans of middle-class to affluent college grads”

                                          The median tax dollar does not come from working class folks.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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