NYC is ground zero
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Yup, take masks as an example. Very common to wear masks even before all of this. But, people would wear them if they were feeling sick, so that they would not pass on their germs to others, rather to protect themselves FROM others.
People would look bad at someone if they were on a bus or something and coughing, etc and was not wearing a mask.
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@jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:
NYC - 72,181 - 7% increase
NJ - 41,090
MI - 17,221
Nassau - 15,616
CA - 15,332
LA - 14,867 - 14% increase
Westchester - 14,294
Suffolk - 14,185 - 14% increase
MA - 13,387
FL - 13,317NYC - 76,876 - 7%
NJ - 44,416
MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
Nassau County - 16,610
CA - 16,429
LA - 16,284
PA - 14,852
Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
Suffolk County - 14,517
FL - 14,504
MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
IL - 12,266If I didn't note the percentage, it's under 10.
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I don’t know what the average lag is but I suspect it’s about 5 days. Clinicians are getting the quicker tests but many are going to the 18,000 or so labs around the country.
I think you need to think about that to understand why people believe NY is peaking now.
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@jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:
NYC - 76,876 - 7%
NJ - 44,416
MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
Nassau County - 16,610
CA - 16,429
LA - 16,284
PA - 14,852
Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
Suffolk County - 14,517
FL - 14,504
MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
IL - 12,266NYC - 81,803 - 6%
NJ - 47,437
MI - 20,346
Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
CA - 17,803
LA - 17,030
Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
PA - 16,631 - 12%
Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
FL - 15,202Again, no %age means <10%
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html
Genome study says most New York cases of COVID-19 came from Europe.
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@Rainman said in NYC is ground zero:
The feds cannot demand, but they could ask each state for standardization of input.
I used to collect and report this data - 40+ years ago
Where does the time go?
I assume systems have changed since then
https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nndss/data-collection.html
@cdc said in [Notifiable Disease Surveillance Starts at State and Local Levels]
Notifiable Disease Surveillance Starts at State and Local Levels
CDC receives case notifications from 57 reporting jurisdictions. Each state has laws requiring certain diseases be reported at the state level, but it is voluntary for states to provide information or notifications to CDC at the federal level. The notifiable diseases data voluntarily shared by these 57 jurisdictions represents only a portion of the public health surveillance data that jurisdictions collect and use to make decisions and conduct public health activities in their communities (e.g., outbreak detection and control). There are several important distinctions between a reportable disease and a notifiable disease.
It is mandatory that reportable disease cases be reported to state and territorial jurisdictions when identified by a health provider, hospital, or laboratory. This type of required reporting uses personal identifiers and enables the states to identify cases where immediate disease control and prevention is needed. Each state has its own laws and regulations defining what diseases are reportable. The list of reportable diseases varies among states and over time.
It is voluntary that notifiable disease cases be reported to CDC by state and territorial jurisdictions (without direct personal identifiers) for nationwide aggregation and monitoring of disease data. Regular, frequent, timely information on individual cases is considered necessary to monitor disease trends, identify populations or geographic areas at high risk, formulate and assess prevention and control strategies, and formulate public health policies. The list of notifiable diseases varies over time and by state. The list of national notifiable diseases is reviewed and modified annually by the CSTE and CDC. Every national notifiable disease is not necessarily reportable in each state. In addition, not every state reportable condition is national notifiable. -
@jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:
NYC - 81,803 - 6%
NJ - 47,437
MI - 20,346
Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
CA - 17,803
LA - 17,030
Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
PA - 16,631 - 12%
Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
FL - 15,202Again, no %age means <10%
NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
NJ - 51,027
MI - 21.504
Nassau - 20,140
CA - 19,131
PA - 18,300 - 10%
LA - 18,283
Suffolk - 17,413
Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
MA - 16,790
FL - 16,364
IL - 15,078NYC more than China (claimed) cases now. PA is the only state up 10%
DON’T let them eat cake.
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@jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:
NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
NJ - 51,027
MI - 21.504
Nassau - 20,140
CA - 19,131
PA - 18,300 - 10%
LA - 18,283
Suffolk - 17,413
Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
MA - 16,790
FL - 16,364
IL - 15,078Not updated in 3 days, but I'm computing daily averages.
NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
NJ - 61,850
MI - 24,028
Nassau - 23, 553
PA - 22,938
MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
CA 22,439
Suffolk - 20,934
IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
LA - 20,595
FL - 19,347
Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%DON’T let them eat cake.
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@jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:
NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
NJ - 61,850
MI - 24,028
Nassau - 23, 553
PA - 22,938
MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
CA 22,439
Suffolk - 20,934
IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
LA - 20,595
FL - 19,347
Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
NJ -64,584
MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
Nassau - 24,358
PA - 24,292
MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
CA - 23,585
IL - 22,024
Suffolk - 21,643
LA - 21,016
FL - 20,601
Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5% -
Louisiana has calmed way the hell down,
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It looks like we're (MA) spiking now.
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Which seems odd.
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I've really only paid close attention to NY numbers.
But in my peripheral vision noting these other states, sometimes I see the numbers jump around in fits and starts. Could be uneven testing, could be the frequency with which JH updates their data. Or something else.
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@jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:
NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
NJ -64,584
MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
Nassau - 24,358
PA - 24,292
MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
CA - 23,585
IL - 22,024
Suffolk - 21,643
LA - 21,016
FL - 20,601
Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%NYC - 118,302 - up 5.2% daily
NJ - 71,030
MA - 29,852
MI - 28,059
PA - 26,753
Nassau - 26,715
CA - 26,666
Suffolk - 23,278
IL - 23,248
FL - 22,511
LA - 21,951
Westchester - 20,947 up 3%
Cook - 16,323
Texas 15,687Cook County would be in 10th place if it were a state (consolidating all NY).
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Seriously, what happened to slow down Florida and Louisiana?
