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  • J jon-nyc
    6 Apr 2020, 22:48

    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

    NYC - 67,551 - 9% daily growth rate
    NJ - 37,505
    MI - 15,718
    Nassau County - 14,398
    CA - 14,055
    Westchester - 13,723 - only 6% daily growth.
    LA - 13,010 - 13% daily growth rate
    Suffolk County - 12,405
    FL - 12,151 - 15% daily growth

    NYC - 72,181 - 7% increase
    NJ - 41,090
    MI - 17,221
    Nassau - 15,616
    CA - 15,332
    LA - 14,867 - 14% increase
    Westchester - 14,294
    Suffolk - 14,185 - 14% increase
    MA - 13,387
    FL - 13,317

    Louisiana now has more cases than Westchester.

    Every entity I didn't put a percentage increase on gained less than 10% (usually just under)

    Again I like these (2nd deriv) trends.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 22:33 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Jul 2020, 22:33
    #30

    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

    NYC - 72,181 - 7% increase
    NJ - 41,090
    MI - 17,221
    Nassau - 15,616
    CA - 15,332
    LA - 14,867 - 14% increase
    Westchester - 14,294
    Suffolk - 14,185 - 14% increase
    MA - 13,387
    FL - 13,317

    NYC - 76,876 - 7%
    NJ - 44,416
    MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
    Nassau County - 16,610
    CA - 16,429
    LA - 16,284
    PA - 14,852
    Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
    Suffolk County - 14,517
    FL - 14,504
    MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
    IL - 12,266

    If I didn't note the percentage, it's under 10.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

    J 1 Reply Last reply 8 Apr 2020, 22:18
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      Loki
      wrote on 7 Apr 2020, 23:30 last edited by
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      When they identify new cases when where those tests given?

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 01:36 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Aug 2020, 01:36
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        I don’t know. I suspect the turnaround time varies by state. And even within states.

        Some states report positives, negatives, and total tested and you can see there’s a delay.

        Some states don’t do that. At least from what I’ve seen.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • J jon-nyc
          8 Apr 2020, 01:36

          I don’t know. I suspect the turnaround time varies by state. And even within states.

          Some states report positives, negatives, and total tested and you can see there’s a delay.

          Some states don’t do that. At least from what I’ve seen.

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          Loki
          wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 02:33 last edited by
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          I don’t know what the average lag is but I suspect it’s about 5 days. Clinicians are getting the quicker tests but many are going to the 18,000 or so labs around the country.

          I think you need to think about that to understand why people believe NY is peaking now.

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          • J jon-nyc
            7 Apr 2020, 22:33

            @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

            NYC - 72,181 - 7% increase
            NJ - 41,090
            MI - 17,221
            Nassau - 15,616
            CA - 15,332
            LA - 14,867 - 14% increase
            Westchester - 14,294
            Suffolk - 14,185 - 14% increase
            MA - 13,387
            FL - 13,317

            NYC - 76,876 - 7%
            NJ - 44,416
            MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
            Nassau County - 16,610
            CA - 16,429
            LA - 16,284
            PA - 14,852
            Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
            Suffolk County - 14,517
            FL - 14,504
            MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
            IL - 12,266

            If I didn't note the percentage, it's under 10.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 22:18 last edited by
            #34

            @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

            NYC - 76,876 - 7%
            NJ - 44,416
            MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
            Nassau County - 16,610
            CA - 16,429
            LA - 16,284
            PA - 14,852
            Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
            Suffolk County - 14,517
            FL - 14,504
            MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
            IL - 12,266

            NYC - 81,803 - 6%
            NJ - 47,437
            MI - 20,346
            Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
            CA - 17,803
            LA - 17,030
            Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
            PA - 16,631 - 12%
            Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
            FL - 15,202

            Again, no %age means <10%

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

            J 1 Reply Last reply 9 Apr 2020, 22:23
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              Rainman
              wrote on 8 Apr 2020, 22:28 last edited by
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              The feds cannot demand, but they could ask each state for standardization of input.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 10:57 last edited by
                #36

                https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html

                Genome study says most New York cases of COVID-19 came from Europe.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 11:16 last edited by
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                  And where did the European cases come from?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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                  • R Rainman
                    8 Apr 2020, 22:28

                    The feds cannot demand, but they could ask each state for standardization of input.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 12:18 last edited by
                    #38

                    @Rainman said in NYC is ground zero:

                    The feds cannot demand, but they could ask each state for standardization of input.

                    I used to collect and report this data - 40+ years ago

                    Where does the time go?

                    I assume systems have changed since then

                    https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nndss/data-collection.html

                    @cdc said in [Notifiable Disease Surveillance Starts at State and Local Levels]

                    Notifiable Disease Surveillance Starts at State and Local Levels

                    CDC receives case notifications from 57 reporting jurisdictions. Each state has laws requiring certain diseases be reported at the state level, but it is voluntary for states to provide information or notifications to CDC at the federal level. The notifiable diseases data voluntarily shared by these 57 jurisdictions represents only a portion of the public health surveillance data that jurisdictions collect and use to make decisions and conduct public health activities in their communities (e.g., outbreak detection and control). There are several important distinctions between a reportable disease and a notifiable disease.

                    It is mandatory that reportable disease cases be reported to state and territorial jurisdictions when identified by a health provider, hospital, or laboratory. This type of required reporting uses personal identifiers and enables the states to identify cases where immediate disease control and prevention is needed. Each state has its own laws and regulations defining what diseases are reportable. The list of reportable diseases varies among states and over time.
                    It is voluntary that notifiable disease cases be reported to CDC by state and territorial jurisdictions (without direct personal identifiers) for nationwide aggregation and monitoring of disease data. Regular, frequent, timely information on individual cases is considered necessary to monitor disease trends, identify populations or geographic areas at high risk, formulate and assess prevention and control strategies, and formulate public health policies. The list of notifiable diseases varies over time and by state. The list of national notifiable diseases is reviewed and modified annually by the CSTE and CDC. Every national notifiable disease is not necessarily reportable in each state. In addition, not every state reportable condition is national notifiable.

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      8 Apr 2020, 22:18

                      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                      NYC - 76,876 - 7%
                      NJ - 44,416
                      MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
                      Nassau County - 16,610
                      CA - 16,429
                      LA - 16,284
                      PA - 14,852
                      Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
                      Suffolk County - 14,517
                      FL - 14,504
                      MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
                      IL - 12,266

                      NYC - 81,803 - 6%
                      NJ - 47,437
                      MI - 20,346
                      Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
                      CA - 17,803
                      LA - 17,030
                      Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
                      PA - 16,631 - 12%
                      Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
                      FL - 15,202

                      Again, no %age means <10%

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 9 Apr 2020, 22:23 last edited by
                      #39

                      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                      NYC - 81,803 - 6%
                      NJ - 47,437
                      MI - 20,346
                      Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
                      CA - 17,803
                      LA - 17,030
                      Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
                      PA - 16,631 - 12%
                      Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
                      FL - 15,202

                      Again, no %age means <10%

                      NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
                      NJ - 51,027
                      MI - 21.504
                      Nassau - 20,140
                      CA - 19,131
                      PA - 18,300 - 10%
                      LA - 18,283
                      Suffolk - 17,413
                      Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
                      MA - 16,790
                      FL - 16,364
                      IL - 15,078

                      NYC more than China (claimed) cases now. PA is the only state up 10%

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

                      J 1 Reply Last reply 12 Apr 2020, 22:49
                      • J jon-nyc
                        9 Apr 2020, 22:23

                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                        NYC - 81,803 - 6%
                        NJ - 47,437
                        MI - 20,346
                        Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
                        CA - 17,803
                        LA - 17,030
                        Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
                        PA - 16,631 - 12%
                        Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
                        FL - 15,202

                        Again, no %age means <10%

                        NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
                        NJ - 51,027
                        MI - 21.504
                        Nassau - 20,140
                        CA - 19,131
                        PA - 18,300 - 10%
                        LA - 18,283
                        Suffolk - 17,413
                        Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
                        MA - 16,790
                        FL - 16,364
                        IL - 15,078

                        NYC more than China (claimed) cases now. PA is the only state up 10%

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 22:49 last edited by
                        #40

                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                        NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
                        NJ - 51,027
                        MI - 21.504
                        Nassau - 20,140
                        CA - 19,131
                        PA - 18,300 - 10%
                        LA - 18,283
                        Suffolk - 17,413
                        Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
                        MA - 16,790
                        FL - 16,364
                        IL - 15,078

                        Not updated in 3 days, but I'm computing daily averages.

                        NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
                        NJ - 61,850
                        MI - 24,028
                        Nassau - 23, 553
                        PA - 22,938
                        MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
                        CA 22,439
                        Suffolk - 20,934
                        IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
                        LA - 20,595
                        FL - 19,347
                        Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

                        J 1 Reply Last reply 13 Apr 2020, 22:04
                        • J jon-nyc
                          12 Apr 2020, 22:49

                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                          NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
                          NJ - 51,027
                          MI - 21.504
                          Nassau - 20,140
                          CA - 19,131
                          PA - 18,300 - 10%
                          LA - 18,283
                          Suffolk - 17,413
                          Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
                          MA - 16,790
                          FL - 16,364
                          IL - 15,078

                          Not updated in 3 days, but I'm computing daily averages.

                          NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
                          NJ - 61,850
                          MI - 24,028
                          Nassau - 23, 553
                          PA - 22,938
                          MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
                          CA 22,439
                          Suffolk - 20,934
                          IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
                          LA - 20,595
                          FL - 19,347
                          Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:04 last edited by
                          #41

                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                          NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
                          NJ - 61,850
                          MI - 24,028
                          Nassau - 23, 553
                          PA - 22,938
                          MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
                          CA 22,439
                          Suffolk - 20,934
                          IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
                          LA - 20,595
                          FL - 19,347
                          Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

                          NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
                          NJ -64,584
                          MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
                          Nassau - 24,358
                          PA - 24,292
                          MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
                          CA - 23,585
                          IL - 22,024
                          Suffolk - 21,643
                          LA - 21,016
                          FL - 20,601
                          Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:27 last edited by
                            #42

                            Louisiana has calmed way the hell down,

                            The Brad

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:34 last edited by
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                              It looks like we're (MA) spiking now.

                              I was only joking

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 23:03 last edited by
                                #44

                                Which seems odd.

                                The Brad

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 23:05 last edited by
                                  #45

                                  I've really only paid close attention to NY numbers.

                                  But in my peripheral vision noting these other states, sometimes I see the numbers jump around in fits and starts. Could be uneven testing, could be the frequency with which JH updates their data. Or something else.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    13 Apr 2020, 22:04

                                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                    NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
                                    NJ - 61,850
                                    MI - 24,028
                                    Nassau - 23, 553
                                    PA - 22,938
                                    MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
                                    CA 22,439
                                    Suffolk - 20,934
                                    IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
                                    LA - 20,595
                                    FL - 19,347
                                    Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

                                    NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
                                    NJ -64,584
                                    MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
                                    Nassau - 24,358
                                    PA - 24,292
                                    MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
                                    CA - 23,585
                                    IL - 22,024
                                    Suffolk - 21,643
                                    LA - 21,016
                                    FL - 20,601
                                    Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 15 Apr 2020, 22:00 last edited by
                                    #46

                                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                    NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
                                    NJ -64,584
                                    MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
                                    Nassau - 24,358
                                    PA - 24,292
                                    MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
                                    CA - 23,585
                                    IL - 22,024
                                    Suffolk - 21,643
                                    LA - 21,016
                                    FL - 20,601
                                    Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

                                    NYC - 118,302 - up 5.2% daily
                                    NJ - 71,030
                                    MA - 29,852
                                    MI - 28,059
                                    PA - 26,753
                                    Nassau - 26,715
                                    CA - 26,666
                                    Suffolk - 23,278
                                    IL - 23,248
                                    FL - 22,511
                                    LA - 21,951
                                    Westchester - 20,947 up 3%
                                    Cook - 16,323
                                    Texas 15,687

                                    Cook County would be in 10th place if it were a state (consolidating all NY).

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 02:23 last edited by
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                                      Seriously, what happened to slow down Florida and Louisiana?

                                      The Brad

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 10:02 last edited by
                                        #48

                                        Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          16 Apr 2020, 10:02

                                          Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

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                                          wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 11:41 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                          Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down

                                          😀

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