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NYC is ground zero

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  • L Offline
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    Loki
    wrote on last edited by
    #31

    When they identify new cases when where those tests given?

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
      #32

      I don’t know. I suspect the turnaround time varies by state. And even within states.

      Some states report positives, negatives, and total tested and you can see there’s a delay.

      Some states don’t do that. At least from what I’ve seen.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        I don’t know. I suspect the turnaround time varies by state. And even within states.

        Some states report positives, negatives, and total tested and you can see there’s a delay.

        Some states don’t do that. At least from what I’ve seen.

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        Loki
        wrote on last edited by
        #33

        I don’t know what the average lag is but I suspect it’s about 5 days. Clinicians are getting the quicker tests but many are going to the 18,000 or so labs around the country.

        I think you need to think about that to understand why people believe NY is peaking now.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

          NYC - 72,181 - 7% increase
          NJ - 41,090
          MI - 17,221
          Nassau - 15,616
          CA - 15,332
          LA - 14,867 - 14% increase
          Westchester - 14,294
          Suffolk - 14,185 - 14% increase
          MA - 13,387
          FL - 13,317

          NYC - 76,876 - 7%
          NJ - 44,416
          MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
          Nassau County - 16,610
          CA - 16,429
          LA - 16,284
          PA - 14,852
          Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
          Suffolk County - 14,517
          FL - 14,504
          MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
          IL - 12,266

          If I didn't note the percentage, it's under 10.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #34

          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

          NYC - 76,876 - 7%
          NJ - 44,416
          MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
          Nassau County - 16,610
          CA - 16,429
          LA - 16,284
          PA - 14,852
          Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
          Suffolk County - 14,517
          FL - 14,504
          MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
          IL - 12,266

          NYC - 81,803 - 6%
          NJ - 47,437
          MI - 20,346
          Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
          CA - 17,803
          LA - 17,030
          Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
          PA - 16,631 - 12%
          Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
          FL - 15,202

          Again, no %age means <10%

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Rainman
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            #35

            The feds cannot demand, but they could ask each state for standardization of input.

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              #36

              https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/science/new-york-coronavirus-cases-europe-genomes.html

              Genome study says most New York cases of COVID-19 came from Europe.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #37

                And where did the European cases come from?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  The feds cannot demand, but they could ask each state for standardization of input.

                  CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #38

                  @Rainman said in NYC is ground zero:

                  The feds cannot demand, but they could ask each state for standardization of input.

                  I used to collect and report this data - 40+ years ago

                  Where does the time go?

                  I assume systems have changed since then

                  https://wwwn.cdc.gov/nndss/data-collection.html

                  @cdc said in [Notifiable Disease Surveillance Starts at State and Local Levels]

                  Notifiable Disease Surveillance Starts at State and Local Levels

                  CDC receives case notifications from 57 reporting jurisdictions. Each state has laws requiring certain diseases be reported at the state level, but it is voluntary for states to provide information or notifications to CDC at the federal level. The notifiable diseases data voluntarily shared by these 57 jurisdictions represents only a portion of the public health surveillance data that jurisdictions collect and use to make decisions and conduct public health activities in their communities (e.g., outbreak detection and control). There are several important distinctions between a reportable disease and a notifiable disease.

                  It is mandatory that reportable disease cases be reported to state and territorial jurisdictions when identified by a health provider, hospital, or laboratory. This type of required reporting uses personal identifiers and enables the states to identify cases where immediate disease control and prevention is needed. Each state has its own laws and regulations defining what diseases are reportable. The list of reportable diseases varies among states and over time.
                  It is voluntary that notifiable disease cases be reported to CDC by state and territorial jurisdictions (without direct personal identifiers) for nationwide aggregation and monitoring of disease data. Regular, frequent, timely information on individual cases is considered necessary to monitor disease trends, identify populations or geographic areas at high risk, formulate and assess prevention and control strategies, and formulate public health policies. The list of notifiable diseases varies over time and by state. The list of national notifiable diseases is reviewed and modified annually by the CSTE and CDC. Every national notifiable disease is not necessarily reportable in each state. In addition, not every state reportable condition is national notifiable.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                    NYC - 76,876 - 7%
                    NJ - 44,416
                    MI - 17,221 - same as yesterday, clearly not updated
                    Nassau County - 16,610
                    CA - 16,429
                    LA - 16,284
                    PA - 14,852
                    Westchester - 14,804 - 4%
                    Suffolk County - 14,517
                    FL - 14,504
                    MA - 15,202. - 13.5%
                    IL - 12,266

                    NYC - 81,803 - 6%
                    NJ - 47,437
                    MI - 20,346
                    Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
                    CA - 17,803
                    LA - 17,030
                    Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
                    PA - 16,631 - 12%
                    Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
                    FL - 15,202

                    Again, no %age means <10%

                    jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #39

                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                    NYC - 81,803 - 6%
                    NJ - 47,437
                    MI - 20,346
                    Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
                    CA - 17,803
                    LA - 17,030
                    Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
                    PA - 16,631 - 12%
                    Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
                    FL - 15,202

                    Again, no %age means <10%

                    NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
                    NJ - 51,027
                    MI - 21.504
                    Nassau - 20,140
                    CA - 19,131
                    PA - 18,300 - 10%
                    LA - 18,283
                    Suffolk - 17,413
                    Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
                    MA - 16,790
                    FL - 16,364
                    IL - 15,078

                    NYC more than China (claimed) cases now. PA is the only state up 10%

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                      NYC - 81,803 - 6%
                      NJ - 47,437
                      MI - 20,346
                      Nassau - 18.548 - 12%
                      CA - 17,803
                      LA - 17,030
                      Suffolk - 17,008 - 17%
                      PA - 16,631 - 12%
                      Westchester - 15,887 - 7%
                      FL - 15,202

                      Again, no %age means <10%

                      NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
                      NJ - 51,027
                      MI - 21.504
                      Nassau - 20,140
                      CA - 19,131
                      PA - 18,300 - 10%
                      LA - 18,283
                      Suffolk - 17,413
                      Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
                      MA - 16,790
                      FL - 16,364
                      IL - 15,078

                      NYC more than China (claimed) cases now. PA is the only state up 10%

                      jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #40

                      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                      NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
                      NJ - 51,027
                      MI - 21.504
                      Nassau - 20,140
                      CA - 19,131
                      PA - 18,300 - 10%
                      LA - 18,283
                      Suffolk - 17,413
                      Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
                      MA - 16,790
                      FL - 16,364
                      IL - 15,078

                      Not updated in 3 days, but I'm computing daily averages.

                      NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
                      NJ - 61,850
                      MI - 24,028
                      Nassau - 23, 553
                      PA - 22,938
                      MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
                      CA 22,439
                      Suffolk - 20,934
                      IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
                      LA - 20,595
                      FL - 19,347
                      Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                        NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
                        NJ - 51,027
                        MI - 21.504
                        Nassau - 20,140
                        CA - 19,131
                        PA - 18,300 - 10%
                        LA - 18,283
                        Suffolk - 17,413
                        Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
                        MA - 16,790
                        FL - 16,364
                        IL - 15,078

                        Not updated in 3 days, but I'm computing daily averages.

                        NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
                        NJ - 61,850
                        MI - 24,028
                        Nassau - 23, 553
                        PA - 22,938
                        MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
                        CA 22,439
                        Suffolk - 20,934
                        IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
                        LA - 20,595
                        FL - 19,347
                        Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

                        jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #41

                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                        NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
                        NJ - 61,850
                        MI - 24,028
                        Nassau - 23, 553
                        PA - 22,938
                        MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
                        CA 22,439
                        Suffolk - 20,934
                        IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
                        LA - 20,595
                        FL - 19,347
                        Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

                        NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
                        NJ -64,584
                        MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
                        Nassau - 24,358
                        PA - 24,292
                        MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
                        CA - 23,585
                        IL - 22,024
                        Suffolk - 21,643
                        LA - 21,016
                        FL - 20,601
                        Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #42

                          Louisiana has calmed way the hell down,

                          The Brad

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #43

                            It looks like we're (MA) spiking now.

                            I was only joking

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              #44

                              Which seems odd.

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #45

                                I've really only paid close attention to NY numbers.

                                But in my peripheral vision noting these other states, sometimes I see the numbers jump around in fits and starts. Could be uneven testing, could be the frequency with which JH updates their data. Or something else.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                  NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
                                  NJ - 61,850
                                  MI - 24,028
                                  Nassau - 23, 553
                                  PA - 22,938
                                  MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
                                  CA 22,439
                                  Suffolk - 20,934
                                  IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
                                  LA - 20,595
                                  FL - 19,347
                                  Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

                                  NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
                                  NJ -64,584
                                  MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
                                  Nassau - 24,358
                                  PA - 24,292
                                  MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
                                  CA - 23,585
                                  IL - 22,024
                                  Suffolk - 21,643
                                  LA - 21,016
                                  FL - 20,601
                                  Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

                                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #46

                                  @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                  NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
                                  NJ -64,584
                                  MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
                                  Nassau - 24,358
                                  PA - 24,292
                                  MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
                                  CA - 23,585
                                  IL - 22,024
                                  Suffolk - 21,643
                                  LA - 21,016
                                  FL - 20,601
                                  Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

                                  NYC - 118,302 - up 5.2% daily
                                  NJ - 71,030
                                  MA - 29,852
                                  MI - 28,059
                                  PA - 26,753
                                  Nassau - 26,715
                                  CA - 26,666
                                  Suffolk - 23,278
                                  IL - 23,248
                                  FL - 22,511
                                  LA - 21,951
                                  Westchester - 20,947 up 3%
                                  Cook - 16,323
                                  Texas 15,687

                                  Cook County would be in 10th place if it were a state (consolidating all NY).

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    #47

                                    Seriously, what happened to slow down Florida and Louisiana?

                                    The Brad

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                                      #48

                                      Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #49

                                        @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                        Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down

                                        😀

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #50

                                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                          Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

                                          Read about my experience at WallyWorld.

                                          Social distancing? I say "hah!" to your face...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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